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Null Security Space Guide to Running Sites

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#21 - 2013-12-11 06:40:55 UTC
Very nice write up. Can see there's been a lot of time and attention to detail put in. (thumbs up smiley)

Just one (small) thing that caught my eye, this being EVE: trust no-one also includes peoples bio's. If I where a bad bad very bad person my bio would make me look like the cutest cuddliest white fluffy bunny ever, just before I had you for breakfast. Twisted
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#22 - 2013-12-11 06:59:37 UTC
Monumental work. Thank you very much!

P. S. With "exploration" I'm just waiting for more ghost-sites-like explicitly visible content as I won't play scanning mini-game no matter what (most boring mini-game in the history of mankind)
Gummy Worm
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-12-11 08:10:02 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Very nice write up. Can see there's been a lot of time and attention to detail put in. (thumbs up smiley)

Just one (small) thing that caught my eye, this being EVE: trust no-one also includes peoples bio's. If I where a bad bad very bad person my bio would make me look like the cutest cuddliest white fluffy bunny ever, just before I had you for breakfast. Twisted


Edited the end of the paragraph that you're referring to. Thanks for the tip. I may now just fill my entire bio with information regarding Science/Research and POS towers so people think I'm just doing stuff at a random tower in system.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-12-11 08:16:08 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Ghost sites: Need a tank, MWD, cargo scanner, and data module. T3 is best for this.
Warp in, cargo scan, then hack away at the best cans first until **** explodes. The rats that spawn will scram you. Just tank them, they'll warp away in about 15 seconds. Then you can warp out.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Herrin Asura
Covert Operations Agency
#25 - 2013-12-11 09:52:18 UTC
I love it.

Thank you for your effort.
Blood Viper Johnson
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-12-11 10:27:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Blood Viper Johnson
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Blood Viper Johnson
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-12-11 10:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Pinky Hops wrote:
Just skimming your guide. So far I see a few problems.


Problem 4:
You don't mention any specific numbers in your thread involving target scan strength. In general, you should aim for a minimum of 95 base probe strength (it might be a bit less, but I consider that a good target) for scanning down the hardest relic -- the Crystal Quarry.

false iv scanned quary on bomber with 85 core strengh)


I've fixed the actual quoting. ISD Ezwal.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#28 - 2013-12-11 11:16:11 UTC
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Spud Lazair
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-12-11 12:21:09 UTC
i like the info you have provided it give's people like me an idea of where to start its a shame about some of the posts between your guide.
+1

"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-12-11 12:32:58 UTC
\o/

woot I managed to read it all +1 for me.

Oh nice info btw +1 for you too

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Deruza Deka
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-12-11 14:00:44 UTC
In case my brain didn't fully comprehend after reading all of this; you said that there are no spawns in the data or relic sites in nullsec?

I thought this as well once. But when I was doing a site in Drone space, they spawned after I failed it. I don't know which one precisely it was, thought it was a data.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#32 - 2013-12-11 15:16:29 UTC
holy crap that is a lot of guide just to cover data/relics.

OP, might want to put "profession" sites in the title.

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Jhary Taran
Militiae Templi
#33 - 2013-12-11 16:09:51 UTC
great thread - the best guide on exploration I found so far!

exploration is one of the sides of EVE I want to try out, and this is the most thought-out guide I found so far! thank you
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#34 - 2013-12-11 16:12:34 UTC
I've taken the liberty of adding this thread to the useful threads list.

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Jay Jagr
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#35 - 2013-12-11 16:55:11 UTC
Small correction* Your list of data cans by value/difficulty should be :
Databank
Mainframe
Com Tower
Info Shard (I've never seen one of these in null though, just HS/LS)

Nice guide. I do a lot of null exploration but still picked up a few new tips :)
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-12-11 17:22:10 UTC  |  Edited by: SKINE DMZ
Deruza Deka wrote:
In case my brain didn't fully comprehend after reading all of this; you said that there are no spawns in the data or relic sites in nullsec?

I thought this as well once. But when I was doing a site in Drone space, they spawned after I failed it. I don't know which one precisely it was, thought it was a data.


Yep, I also had rats spawn on me on a data site after failing in drone space, I freaked out as suddenly my shields dropped, but surprisingly slowly too, they were still there 30 min / hour later. I now try and stay away from drone space, as the drops are bad and I never seem to find a relic site in there.

And awesome guide! A couple of things that seem to be missing is, what rigs to put on your exploration mobile? More scan strength or virus strength? Maybe a bit more information on the different viruses when hacking, and also it's great to go from Highsec to Null via wormholes and back.

And also about the colours of the cans, you can que up a next can but usually it's better to wait until one is green to click the next one I find, it really sucks to accidently move from your spot and move away from all the cans Smile

I disagree
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-12-11 18:30:08 UTC
Damn nice thread, I finished reading "Building the Great Wall" by Nietzsche before this.
Gummy Worm
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-12-11 19:23:31 UTC
Jay Jagr wrote:
Small correction* Your list of data cans by value/difficulty should be :
Databank
Mainframe
Com Tower
Info Shard (I've never seen one of these in null though, just HS/LS)

Nice guide. I do a lot of null exploration but still picked up a few new tips :)


Corrected and added. Thank you Jay
Gummy Worm
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-12-11 19:36:40 UTC
Just want to go ahead and say that I appreciate all the feedback so far, from r/eve and here on the forums.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#40 - 2013-12-11 21:31:47 UTC
I guess there is some useful information contained in those 10-ish posts, but naming it "Guide to running sites" and then only covering relic/data sites is a bit funny. I aplaud your effort tho.