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Dev blog: Twitch integration is here!

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Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2013-12-10 17:14:42 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
No 1680x1050 option. Sad



Not to mention that selecting any of the stream resolutions changes the entire game's resolution.

So I can either have a really small window of the game, a really small window of the game, or a ugly aspect ratio (1600x1024) of the game.

Which, by the way, fucks up all the window frame positions. Evil
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#102 - 2013-12-10 17:34:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
Is there gonna be a hotkey to start and stop the stream?

Also my stream runs for 10secs then stops. Corpmate is having same issues anyone else?

Blue-Fire Best Fire
CCP Maverick
C C P
C C P Alliance
#103 - 2013-12-10 17:55:14 UTC
Hi all and thanks for your continued feedback. Rest assured - we are reading.

For those of you having issues with streaming, please remember that streaming is quite an intensive process. Twitch Recommends:

  • CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz or AMD equivalent
  • MEMORY: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM
  • OS: Windows 7 Home Premium

    • So whilst your computer may meet the recommended spec for EVE Online, you may experience issues streaming to twitch.

    CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones
    CCP Maverick
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #104 - 2013-12-10 17:55:53 UTC
    Aquila Sagitta wrote:
    Is there gonna be a hotkey to start and stop the stream?


    This is something we will consider but obviously we don't want people accidentally streaming when they don't want to.

    CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones
    Alvatore DiMarco
    Capricious Endeavours Ltd
    #105 - 2013-12-10 18:02:41 UTC
    All the people who are worried about giving away their location seem to have forgotten how info panels work.

    You can already hide the system you're in.
    Phoenix Jones
    Small-Arms Fire
    #106 - 2013-12-10 19:15:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
    I watched a stream of an alt watching a gatecamp, and eve didn't explode.

    It's broken. :-P

    FYI, 1920 x 1080 please :-)

    Yaay!!!!
    Ikranis De'Arth
    Prospero Research and Development Holdings
    #107 - 2013-12-10 20:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikranis De'Arth
    It's a nifty toy and can have some good use.
    I've been experimenting with it all day and it's not too bad for the casual streamer.

    Fixes:
    Audio selection for stream, it likes to turn on your mic and transmit everything the sound card can do.
    If there were some check boxes for ( Eve Game sounds, Local Microphone, maybe a key binding to turn on the mic.?)
    I have a bunch of kids running around and I'm not sure everyone that could watch the stream will enjoy me telling them to STFU daddy's blabbing on the internet :)

    Workarounds:
    Someone can see that I'm in System X:
    You can turn off the system/route info in the upper left corner.
    or just move your dscan window over that corner :)
    It's not Private:
    You can change that from the twitch.tv site/profile settings.


    It's a cool toy and I think the BETA of it is good as a proof of concept and basic streamer.
    With a few small tweaks to it I think the casual streamer will enjoy.

    ID.
    Destination SkillQueue
    Doomheim
    #108 - 2013-12-10 21:01:16 UTC
    CCP Maverick wrote:
    Aquila Sagitta wrote:
    Is there gonna be a hotkey to start and stop the stream?


    This is something we will consider but obviously we don't want people accidentally streaming when they don't want to.

    Don't have anything bind to it by default. If the user actively on his own binds something to it, I think you can be cleared of all reasonable responsibility concerning accidental streaming.
    Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
    #109 - 2013-12-10 21:02:08 UTC
    Lipbite wrote:
    Spying in EVE got +1 integrated instrument \o/

    P. S. Guys, you've forgot to implement / distribute SoE t-shirts. And patch notes.


    And a jukebox so we can listen to EVE music without 3rd party apps... again.

    Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
    Sinooko
    Tharumec
    Gespenster Kompanie
    #110 - 2013-12-10 22:00:45 UTC
    The fact that i have to alter resolutions kinda screwed up my carefully laid out UI and I almost had a seizure...

    I love the idea but it needs some more basic functionality before I use it myself.
    teh penguins
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #111 - 2013-12-10 23:32:01 UTC
    These are the things we need this twitch app to do.

    1. Private/Passworded Streams
    2. Delay ( or private stream )
    3. Blocking of Systems


    I stream to twitch cause I don't want to use my hard drive space, so I do private streams that I then highlight/make public. I hide my location because I don't want people figuring out how I get to the places I goto for PVP, I don't need them waiting for me somewhere or trying to find me.

    Sure this is eve, but I doubt anyone who currently streams will use this function. especially since the majority of them use webcams in their stream, even mr Rise did.
    Bambi
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #112 - 2013-12-10 23:33:20 UTC
    Why do people always assume they will be given the prefect solution at the first implementation.
    Its one less program to install and load for the casual streamer, and it works out of the box.
    If you want more use a dedicated app, notepad - Word

    I can see people putting this to some very inventive uses in the future, as EVE players always seem to be able to do.

    Still coming on strong ten years on *big hug*
    Lonli Lonki
    Fo Min
    #113 - 2013-12-10 23:49:23 UTC
    1. Please 1920 x 1080
    2. If you cant do 1080p, then please do like other softwares - game is full HD but stream in converted to lower rez. At this moment for my screen is impossible to play/
    3. HUD, for chat from twich (so all people can read the chat IN the video), this is an important feature for recording). And make blank/hidden some parts of the screen (chat, wallet, systems, overview, name).
    4. Local storage recording.
    5. Hotkeys for stream and sounds. For instance, i want to have an option to keep talking into TeamSpeak but not to steam.

    Since that is inside your game client i pretty sure, you can add a checkbox like "do not display character sheet even if i opened it"



    but 1. most important.
    Rammix
    TheMurk
    #114 - 2013-12-11 00:23:42 UTC
    Shinah Myst wrote:
    As with EVE Voice yet again CCP releases underdeveloped feature that is borderline useless compared to the third party tools. What's the point?

    This.
    There are other similar things ccp did improperly: eve voice, ingame browser, jukebox (now deleted, heh). They should either delete eve voice and the browser, or improve them at last. Otherwise new similar features like streaming are pointless.

    p.s.
    Open The Door.

    Where is the high resolution texture pack?

    OpenSUSE Leap 42.1, wine >1.9

    Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread
    Messoroz
    AQUILA INC
    Verge of Collapse
    #115 - 2013-12-11 00:38:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Messoroz
    Rammix wrote:
    Shinah Myst wrote:
    As with EVE Voice yet again CCP releases underdeveloped feature that is borderline useless compared to the third party tools. What's the point?

    This.
    There are other similar things ccp did improperly: eve voice, ingame browser, jukebox (now deleted, heh). They should either delete eve voice and the browser, or improve them at last. Otherwise new similar features like streaming are pointless.

    p.s.
    Open The Door.

    Where is the high resolution texture pack?


    Ingame browser is ok, they need to upgrade it before EVE Online gets a CVE notification. Right now an attacker can compromise a user's computer via just jita spam of a website url because the browser engine is outdated severely.


    EVE Voice is useless because it's locked down to channels and fleet which is stupid because people can't invite more than 250 to fleet(and what if you disconnect?) and the management controls are completely poor compared to a real voice server setup in 5 seconds. There's no way people will invite users to a chat channel because there's no way to see the full user list in real time. Meta gaming is serious business in EVE Voice and CCP didn't do jack **** to handle that "concern".


    The Twitch feature however is cool and possibly a great direction to go in but holy fudge is it unfinished and missing all the options that matter (resolution, delay, hot keys). Point proven is there are right now 0 streams for EVE Online on twitch as of this post.
    MacQueen
    Viziam
    Amarr Empire
    #116 - 2013-12-11 03:40:33 UTC
    The resolution options make this pretty unappealing for me over something like OBS, or another 3rd party streaming program.

    I've played things like Planetside and Path of Exile, and they do not appear to be limited to these resolutions, as far as I could tell. Is the SDK limitation specific to it's implementation into EVE?

    I love the idea of integrated Twitch streaming, but I feel the true power of this feature would really shine with a feature to obfuscate intel information like system names, etc. Though, I can see how something like that would require a lot of work. Please continue working on and improving this feature, as I believe it's a great addition to the game for introducing other players to EVE.
    Logicycle
    Stimulus
    Rote Kapelle
    #117 - 2013-12-11 04:59:04 UTC
    Very cool idea.
    Rune Jairos
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #118 - 2013-12-11 07:44:00 UTC
    Tam Althor wrote:
    This seems like a real waste of development resources. Putting time into making something that is substandard to any of the 3rd party programs that people already use. Really what is the % of the player base that's even going to bother with this non space game toy?


    I think you're missing the point. CCP isn't a A/V streaming company - it's a gaming company. This is a partnership to enable more people to use streaming... not a tool with all the bells and whistles and the MOST features to be the BEST tool on the market.

    Take a breath, get some perspective, and enjoy that CCP is investing in long-term enhancements to their game by giving it community-focused tools that other games DON'T have.
    Steven Hackett
    Overload This
    #119 - 2013-12-11 08:02:17 UTC
    Rune Jairos wrote:

    I think you're missing the point. CCP isn't a A/V streaming company - it's a gaming company. This is a partnership to enable more people to use streaming... not a tool with all the bells and whistles and the MOST features to be the BEST tool on the market. .

    Pretty ****** partnership if the result is worse-than-average features, isn't it? - maybe twitch will make us a new Ogame and call it a twitch feature Shocked
    Or maybe the twitch partnership will end like the 0wned one and we will have another broken "feature" in our client..

    Nah.. 1/5 for the idea, 1/5 for the implementation and 1/5 for making half-assed features(is this becomming a CCP trend again?)
    Meleric
    Verteidiger des wahren Bloedsinns
    #120 - 2013-12-11 08:54:51 UTC
    Funny thing here: Login complains, that my password is not correct ... changed it a few time and it's still the same thing. Is streaming with Windows XP maybe not possible?