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[GRAPHIC] Damage textures, Wreck models
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Kadazer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-12-10 12:56:20 UTC
When you shoot at a wall in Counterstrike, you see the small hole the bullet caused. The same feature could be used to show the damage on eve ships (damage texture).

When a shot gets fully absorbed by the shield, the shield should flicker and absorb the shot.

When the shot goes to the armor, there should be a visual hole visible. These "hole texture" could get erased by the armor repair module.

When the shot goes to the hull, the shot should go visually into the ship, causing a smaller explosion and some ship parst to fly away which fade very fast. Fires could start maybe.

If a ship gets destroyed, it should use a demolished ship model as wreck model and slowly decay over time to the wreck model currently used. That would look better but not cause large battlefields to cause performance problems.

The server does not have to keep track of the damage textures. When you zoom in the first time to a ship the texture could be generated client side, depending on the current armor and hull state of the ship.

This should only be used when the client has enough free cpu time to render this. Otherwise the simple model could be used to not slow down large scale battles.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-12-10 13:43:17 UTC
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2013-12-10 14:41:45 UTC
Luwc wrote:
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight


Awww, you better get a better PC then and support your economy, instead of keeping better graphics from those who can and want to enjoy them. How's that?

Regarding the topic: this was already "announced" in the Art Panel during Fanfest 2012. They have quite a nice video of a Rokh getting demolished. This is coming, hopefully soon-ish.

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Kadazer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-12-10 15:17:35 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Regarding the topic: this was already "announced" in the Art Panel during Fanfest 2012. They have quite a nice video of a Rokh getting demolished. This is coming, hopefully soon-ish.


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Harlon Cordarii
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-12-10 16:40:24 UTC
Luwc wrote:
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight


There are options to turn down the graphics fortunately!
Paul Panala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-12-10 16:55:06 UTC
Luwc wrote:
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight


Graphics features like that can ben implemented to not impact performance. You would only need to show that level of detail at higher zoom levels, and the game could easily turn the feature off on the fly if it detected lag from the graphics card.

I think it is a great idea!
Paul Panala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-12-10 16:56:39 UTC
Would be nice if the resulting wreck after a ship popped somewhat resembled the former ship (kind of like the smashed stations you see in some missions).
Kadazer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-12-10 17:20:56 UTC
Paul Panala wrote:
Would be nice if the resulting wreck after a ship popped somewhat resembled the former ship (kind of like the smashed stations you see in some missions).


Thats actually what I thought. The wreck should look like the original ship but wrecked.
Mournful Conciousness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-10 17:26:01 UTC
Can we also have a Scottish voice screaming "She cannae take it any more Cap'n!" when the modules start overheating?

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-12-11 09:22:29 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Luwc wrote:
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight


Awww, you better get a better PC then and support your economy, instead of keeping better graphics from those who can and want to enjoy them. How's that?

Regarding the topic: this was already "announced" in the Art Panel during Fanfest 2012. They have quite a nice video of a Rokh getting demolished. This is coming, hopefully soon-ish.


Have you ever been in a massive null sec fight ?

You can have a 2k Dollar PC and it will still lag the **** out on high graphics and effects on (drones for example)

EvE online is a very ressource heavy game unless all you do is run LVL4s in Perimeter.

But taking your corp you seem to be some high sec dweller so I cant really blame you for your lack of knowledge.

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-12-11 09:25:28 UTC
Paul Panala wrote:
Luwc wrote:
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight


Graphics features like that can ben implemented to not impact performance. You would only need to show that level of detail at higher zoom levels, and the game could easily turn the feature off on the fly if it detected lag from the graphics card.

I think it is a great idea!


as CCP is able to do that.
All Effects are still beeing processed even if you zoom out.
Even at a lower detail but still.
The second you are stupid enough to zoom in you can already press alt+f4 because **** freezes.

First CCP needs to work on their engine before implenting new **** nobody needs.

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Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#12 - 2013-12-11 10:23:25 UTC
Mournful Conciousness wrote:
Can we also have a Scottish voice screaming "She cannae take it any more Cap'n!" when the modules start overheating?



+1 Absolute must

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Spugg Galdon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-11 10:31:01 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Mournful Conciousness wrote:
Can we also have a Scottish voice screaming "She cannae take it any more Cap'n!" when the modules start overheating?



+1 Absolute must



I'd prefer the Scottish voice to scream at me when I try to online a module and I don't have enough PG left to online it. You know: "I just cannae doo eet Cap'n! A just doont 'ave tha powah!"
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-12-11 10:43:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Kadazer wrote:
When you shoot at a wall in Counterstrike, you see the small hole the bullet caused. The same feature could be used to show the damage on eve ships (damage texture).


You wouldn't see much since all the hits would be in the same place.

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Kadazer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-12-11 16:29:13 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Kadazer wrote:
When you shoot at a wall in Counterstrike, you see the small hole the bullet caused. The same feature could be used to show the damage on eve ships (damage texture).


You wouldn't see much since all the hits would be in the same place.


That is another problem which should be fixed too.
Kadazer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-12-11 16:47:41 UTC
Luwc wrote:
Paul Panala wrote:
Luwc wrote:
My PC will love this in the next 2k+ fight


Graphics features like that can ben implemented to not impact performance. You would only need to show that level of detail at higher zoom levels, and the game could easily turn the feature off on the fly if it detected lag from the graphics card.

I think it is a great idea!


as CCP is able to do that.
All Effects are still beeing processed even if you zoom out.
Even at a lower detail but still.
The second you are stupid enough to zoom in you can already press alt+f4 because **** freezes.

First CCP needs to work on their engine before implenting new **** nobody needs.



Many effects are not getting rendered at all when you zoom out far enough. Turrets for example are completely skipped. If your fps drops too much when so many ships are visible, then the level of detail should be reduced more by the engine.

What happens when you set your graphics settings manually to minimum in large scale fights? Do you still have bad fps?
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-12-11 17:04:13 UTC
Mournful Conciousness wrote:
Can we also have a Scottish voice screaming "She cannae take it any more Cap'n!" when the modules start overheating?


I would like to supplement this by saying the scottish voice should be Karen Gillan, not James Doohan... :)

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