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Eve online @ 4k Resolutions
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
#1 - 2013-12-10 00:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Amateratsu
Hi all

I'm concidering buying a 4k Ultra HD Tv / Monitor for my Eve addiction, but have read that the current HDMI 1.4 can only handle 30 FPS at Ultra HD Resolution.

Anyone here with experience on what GFX cards and Connection methods would be required?
How well does Eve work at that resolution? is 30 FPS playable?

Any info you guys and girls can offer greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Ambrose Scott
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-12-10 00:35:32 UTC
I remember reading somewhere that to run above 30FPS on a 4K res tv/monitor that it'd require two DVI-D cords to run through or something along those lines.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#3 - 2013-12-10 02:25:09 UTC
It is still too early for 4k and gaming.

Displayport is faster. HDMI 2.0 was only released Sep 2013.

My GTX 690 has this disclaimer: "3840x2160 at 30Hz or 4096x2160 at 24Hz supported over HDMI. 4096x2160 (including 3840x2160) at 60Hz supported over Displayport. Support for 4k tiled MST displays requires 326.19 driver or later."
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#4 - 2013-12-10 09:24:03 UTC
Personally, I'd hold off for a while until the other technologies catch up with 4k. By then, there will be more choices, and stuff won't be as expensive as it is now.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-12-10 10:10:29 UTC
Wouldn't you be better off with multiple monitors? I'm not sure what you really gain with ultra high res in eve, to be honest.

For example, two small border monitors work well - given most action is on a horizontal plane a very widescreen setup like that gives you a nice perspective.
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-12-10 10:35:43 UTC
4k resolution is a waste of time and money the maximum res the human eye can distinguish is about 2.2k Arrow
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2013-12-10 10:38:08 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
4k resolution is a waste of time and money the maximum res the human eye can distinguish is about 2.2k Arrow

No as it is depending on the viewing distance.

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Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#8 - 2013-12-10 10:38:58 UTC
Amateratsu wrote:
Hi all

I'm concidering buying a 4k Ultra HD Tv / Monitor for my Eve addiction, but have read that the current HDMI 1.4 can only handle 30 FPS at Ultra HD Resolution.

Anyone here with experience on what GFX cards and Connection methods would be required?
How well does Eve work at that resolution? is 30 FPS playable?

Any info you guys and girls can offer greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Are there any 4k screens that can do 60Hz?

How to win EVE
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#9 - 2013-12-10 11:48:56 UTC
Off-topic: anyone have any experience with EVE and 21:9 aspect ratio monitors?
Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#10 - 2013-12-10 11:54:08 UTC
Don't waste them money on a 4K display please...Don't get me wrong 4K resolutions are awesome, for gaming as well as for watching movies however it only really makes sense with really big displays. We're talking 50-60 inch plus. IMHO everybody who buys a 60+ inch screen instead of a projector at that point should be shot anyway.
Lilliana Stelles
#11 - 2013-12-10 13:08:40 UTC
If I had a 4k monitor, I'd run eve windowed.

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Ardath Velvet
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-12-10 13:17:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ardath Velvet
Vicky Somers wrote:
Off-topic: anyone have any experience with EVE and 21:9 aspect ratio monitors?


I recently bought one. This is perfect if you can't have a 3 monitors setup. The height is equal to a 21'' 16:9 and the width is something like two 15'' 4:3. A really good choice in my opinion. The game supports this resolution perfectly well.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2013-12-10 14:58:51 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
4k resolution is a waste of time and money the maximum res the human eye can distinguish is about 2.2k Arrow

No. The human eye is not limited to any particular absolute resolution. It's limited to resolution per viewing angle.

Retina displays, for instance, have a minimum resolution of at least 3000 pixels/rad at their intended viewing distance (in practice, they all sit at 3500–4000 px/rad at 30cm) — any closer, and the pixels start showing up. So without knowing the size of the display and the viewing distance, we have no way of telling whether that 4k display will look any better than a standard 1080p one.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2013-12-10 16:38:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
4k is for a really big desktop with no borders.

Example: I am currently using two 24 in. 16:10 displays (20.35 in. x 12.71 in). and I'd replace them in a heartbeat with a single 39 in. 4k 16:9 display (33.99 in. x 19.12 in.), if that were affordable and practical.

Height = (Diagonal^2 / ((h / v)^2 + 1))^0.5
Width = Height * (h / v)

h / v = aspect ratio, typically 16 / 9 for 1080p, 16 / 10 for widescreen, 4 / 3 for 720p
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-12-10 17:50:45 UTC
Great....

Another new piece of technology everyone wants to talk about but no one has a clue what they are talking about. A lot of bad info in this thread, just stop...

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Solhild
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-12-10 17:56:02 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
4k is for a really big desktop with no borders.

Example: I am currently using two 24 in. 16:10 displays (20.35 in. x 12.71 in). and I'd replace them in a heartbeat with a single 39 in. 4k 16:9 display (33.99 in. x 19.12 in.), if that were affordable and practical.

Height = (Diagonal^2 / ((h / v)^2 + 1))^0.5
Width = Height * (h / v)

h / v = aspect ratio, typically 16 / 9 for 1080p, 16 / 10 for widescreen, 4 / 3 for 720p


Same.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-12-10 18:33:54 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
There are 60hz 4k tv's. They usually have either 2 HDMI inputs or a displayport input, and are significanty more expensive than their 30hz single hdmi counterparts. If you go for one of these, I would highly recommend using displayport over the double hdmi option. While I have heard that the process that the 2 HDMI tv's use to combine inputs is very good, I wouldn't trust it to not have minor tearing when gaming (they aren't supposed to, but its theoretically a problem depending on the tv). Also, I should mention that eve plays extremely well on multi monitor setups, and that should be a consideration if cost is at all an issue. (hell it might be a better option. Its pretty cool having all of your overview, local, and other windows on one monitor and just your ship and space on the other.)

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Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-12-10 18:35:45 UTC
Cool kids nerd out with 6 24 inch monitors turned vertical.. In the dark I feel like the kid from enders game

Used to do the big 44 inch lcds thing.. But the Resolution is to small
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-12-10 18:47:14 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Don't waste them money on a 4K display please...Don't get me wrong 4K resolutions are awesome, for gaming as well as for watching movies however it only really makes sense with really big displays. We're talking 50-60 inch plus. IMHO everybody who buys a 60+ inch screen instead of a projector at that point should be shot anyway.


Actually, 4k resolution in mobile displays may prove to be invaluable for VR applications. Maybe not so much just using your phone like normal, but the display themselves in HMD headsets should make a world of difference.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-10 18:58:51 UTC
So technical discussion

much numbers

wow

Dodixie > Hek
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