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Dev blog: Twitch integration is here!

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CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2013-12-09 15:02:57 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Gargant
With the release of EVE Online: Rubicon 1.0.8 on the 10th of December, Twitch.tv integration will be added to the client! This will allow you to bypass all 3rd party programs and stream directly to Twitch.tv!

CCP Rise has all of the details here.

Let us know how you would like this feature to evolve in the future, and how you intend to use it. We can expect more streams to pop up in the next couple of months, and we will welcome all of them with open arms!

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Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#2 - 2013-12-09 15:28:22 UTC
First \o/
DaOpa
Static Corp
#3 - 2013-12-09 15:28:24 UTC


Welcome to twitch!

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-12-09 15:29:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Gilbaron
First?

Edit: :(
Jet Burns
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#5 - 2013-12-09 15:30:50 UTC
You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac!
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#6 - 2013-12-09 15:33:26 UTC
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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2013-12-09 15:39:32 UTC
Jet Burns wrote:
You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac!


Sorry for that =( We are disappointed by the lack of mac support as well. Because of the way we emulate EVE for macs we actually don't have much control over this. There's a problem with something called a 'wrapper' and the twitch SDK and from what I understand we have to investigate with an external provider to get it resolved.

Hopefully we can figure it out but our hands were tied for this release unfortunately.

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Efraya
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#8 - 2013-12-09 15:40:16 UTC
I'll get my streaming boots on this evening and see how it pans out!

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JP Nakamura
Union of Intergalactic Miners and Nano Assemblers
#9 - 2013-12-09 15:45:57 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
Jet Burns wrote:
You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac!


Sorry for that =( We are disappointed by the lack of mac support as well. Because of the way we emulate EVE for macs we actually don't have much control over this. There's a problem with something called a 'wrapper' and the twitch SDK and from what I understand we have to investigate with an external provider to get it resolved.

Hopefully we can figure it out but our hands were tied for this release unfortunately.


There is also a problem with something called a "wrapper" not being updated much, and providing a degraded experience to people on OSX ... hope you are investigating that too (you know, OpenGL is lovely and cross platform, just like Python). A little love for the Mac users would be nice.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#10 - 2013-12-09 15:47:59 UTC
Great feature. Please work on a delay option pronto.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#11 - 2013-12-09 15:51:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
Read the dev blog.

See that delay isn't implemented.

Loled.

Good luck with that Lol

Edit : Actually, no option to hide the current system is also very... fascinating.

Having a streaming feature integrated to the client should make the default options BETTER for eve than any other streaming software, not the opposite.

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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2013-12-09 15:52:18 UTC
I wish delay was easier to do, it's obviously the most attractive feature addition. Unfortunately it's also the least probable. Currently we can stream straight to twitch from the client without having to taken on any extra server load but to provide delay we would have to store the buffer on our own hardware for a huge scale of players. It would be difficult to say the least, and would likely mean a giant investment in new hardware.

Hopefully getting the option through twitch gets easier over time but for now partnership is the only option.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#13 - 2013-12-09 15:53:06 UTC
Yeah, as other have said, add a delay mode. Also, add support for streaming at 1920x1080 resolution before this hits TQ.

A Quality mode where we can choose what kind of quality we want to stream in would also be nice.

Other than that, the 'Open Broadcaster Software' is awesome Big smile

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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2013-12-09 15:55:34 UTC
We are restricted in what resolutions we can offer based on the twitch SDK, but you can select from a wide range of options and then you can also choose the framerate all the way up to 60fps and then we automatically adjust the bitrate to handle your framerate selection.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#15 - 2013-12-09 15:56:07 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
I wish delay was easier to do, it's obviously the most attractive feature addition. Unfortunately it's also the least probable. Currently we can stream straight to twitch from the client without having to taken on any extra server load but to provide delay we would have to store the buffer on our own hardware for a huge scale of players. It would be difficult to say the least, and would likely mean a giant investment in new hardware.

Hopefully getting the option through twitch gets easier over time but for now partnership is the only option.


Well, since you were streaming eve in the past, I guess that you're well aware that your streaming tool won't be used much as long as you cannot figure this out, hard to do or not. Same thing for an opption to hide the current system.

An integrated streaming tool should be better for eve than a non-eve streaming tool, not the opposite.

Also, shouldn't it be technically fesible to put the buffer on the client ? People streaming big fights when delays are needed have a strong hardware anyway.

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Judas II
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#16 - 2013-12-09 15:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Judas II
How does this ingame feature deal with external audio recording? (ie mic) Can we give live microphone comments while streaming?

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Abramul
Canadian Forces Corp
United 4 Nations
#17 - 2013-12-09 16:00:28 UTC
Any chance of being able to watch the streams from in-client? We have that nice big screen in CQ, after all.
CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2013-12-09 16:01:00 UTC
I streamed EVE in the past in a really sensitive intel environment and did it with no delay or very little delay. I felt that what you gain strategically wasn't worth what I gave up by not being able to talk with stream viewers in real time. It's awkward when someone asks a question in chat and then has to wait 10 minutes to get an answer.

And while it would be nice if the integrated tool was better, I actually disagree that it 'should' be. The nice thing about integration is that it's very accessible. It's appealing to a broader audience who would rather have ease of use than having more options. I think if people start streaming because of integration and then realize they want more features and move to a dedicated tool for it that seems great.

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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2013-12-09 16:02:58 UTC
Judas II wrote:
How does this ingame feature deal with external audio recording? (ie mic) Can we give live microphone comments while streaming?


Yes. Your stream will contain all the audio going on on your system. Microphone input/comms/music/game sound and anything will else will all be included.

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-09 16:10:15 UTC
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