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Remove null-sec incursions and put them into high-sec
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#21 - 2013-12-09 08:16:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevyn Auscent
ShahFluffers wrote:
Except null-sec doctrines change because other players find counter-doctrines that destroy them. And then new doctrines must be created... which results in new counter-doctrines.

When you are talking about PvE the doctrine never changes because the content never does (so there is no need to change). You know exactly what you are getting into and what it needed to do it "right." No such thing exists in PvP. Hence, why more than few of us call some high-sec content "risk free." Once the doctrine is in place and everyone knows what they are doing there are few, if any, variables beyond the predictable that can go wrong.

So in other words you are agreeing that it's not risk free. It's just being done right and the risk is being overcome.....
Now, how predictable the spawns are, and how they are all nicely named differently so you know which is which, that's a different matter, but that applies across all PvE in all space, not just incursions, even down to your shiny officer rats that nullsec ratters make their billions off when they find them. Those are known exactly as well.


Edit: Oh, also, don't take this as me supporting the Op. I don't want the Null Sec incursions moved to high sec. If the High sec ones truly are over farmed (Which I don't believe every Vanguard, Assault & HQ system in them will actually be at capacity anyway, Scouts don't count as scouts are terrible terrible sites) then contest or move to low sec incursions.
Cardano Firesnake
Fire Bullet Inc
#22 - 2013-12-09 08:30:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Cardano Firesnake
NO! Change the security status to 4.0 where there is an incursion no matter if it was a highsec or a nullsec before....
The Security status would come back when the incursion vanish.

Posted - 2010.07.01 11:24:00 - [4] Erase learning skills, remap all SP. That's all.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#23 - 2013-12-09 08:33:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Nope... I still think high-sec Incursions are "risk free" once you know how to run them. Again... no PvP in the game has that kind of luxury as even the most well-greased and prepared gang/fleet composition can be nuked by something unexpected.

And yes Nevyn... I do agree that most PvE in the game is pretty "risk free" when shown in this context... but at least out in low-sec and null-sec there is the potential threat of other players coming in to blow you up.

How did you Veterans start?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#24 - 2013-12-09 08:37:32 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Nope... I still think high-sec Incursions are "risk free" once you know how to run them. Again... no PvP in the game has that kind of luxury as even the most well-greased and prepared gang/fleet composition can be nuked by something unexpected.

And yes Nevyn... I do agree that most PvE in the game is pretty "risk free" when shown in this context... but at least out in low-sec and null-sec there is the potential threat of other players coming in to blow you up.

And there is that risk in high sec also. High Sec is not a PVP free zone. Is it lower risk? Certainly. It is also lower reward.
McBorsk
Multispace Technologies Inc
#25 - 2013-12-09 09:22:52 UTC
Nein.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-12-09 09:42:04 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
i have better idea - remove all incursions from high sec. That would solve really many problems. Increase payouts for incursions in low/null sec.


No, unless you want the Wrath of Dinsdale Pirannha to descend upon you. Straight

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-12-09 14:00:54 UTC
Cardano Firesnake wrote:
NO! Change the security status to 4.0 where there is an incursion no matter if it was a highsec or a nullsec before....
The Security status would come back when the incursion vanish.

Wow. If I get Concord protection in 0.5-1.0 space, I can't wait for what goodies we'll get in magical 4.0 security space.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-12-09 14:50:36 UTC
Sal Landry wrote:
Cardano Firesnake wrote:
NO! Change the security status to 4.0 where there is an incursion no matter if it was a highsec or a nullsec before....
The Security status would come back when the incursion vanish.

Wow. If I get Concord protection in 0.5-1.0 space, I can't wait for what goodies we'll get in magical 4.0 security space.
In 4.0 CONCORD would be something like an omnipresent Mind Police, they would somehow sense or smell your intentions and destroy you as soon as you undock.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#29 - 2013-12-09 14:55:47 UTC
Mind Police...
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#30 - 2013-12-09 15:17:27 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
At the moment all 3 high-sec incursions are being farmed along with low-sec incursion while 3 null-sec incursions are completely useless.

Idea is simple: remove 3 null-sec incursions and add 3 incursions into high-sec (or 2 to high-sec + 1 to low-sec). Because high-sec incursions are extremely overcrowded lately (that's why people have to farm almost twice less profitable low-sec incursion).


No because overcrowding, limited sites, and contesting sites is all part of the design.

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