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ISK sinks and faucets

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Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#1 - 2013-12-08 07:47:01 UTC
This post will explain what ISK sinks and faucets are. But first, I'll introduce another term.

ISK pool:
A total amount of ISK in the game. It represents the sum of all ISK from all characters in the game.

ISK faucet:
Any activity when you get ISK that didn't exist in the game before. ISK faucets expand the ISK pool.

Common ISK faucets (the list is not complete):
- NPC bounties
- Mission rewards and bonuses (when they are in pure ISK).
- Selling criminal dog tags and navy insignias to NPC buy orders. You can recognize NPC buy orders by looking at the "Client" column in your Market Transactions window. If your client is an NPC corporation, that's an ISK faucet.
- Selling Overseer's Personal Effects to NPC buy orders.
- Selling Sleeper Components to NPC buy orders (for example "Sleeper Data Library");
- Ship insurance payouts. Even if you did pay for the insurance, the amount of ISK that you get when your ship is destroyed is greater than the amount you have invested in the insurance itself;

ISK sink:
Any activity that removes the ISK from the ISK pool. If you spend some ISK and that ISK does not get transfered to any other player, that's an ISK sink.

Common ISK sinks (the list is not complete):
- Skill books. When you buy a skill book from an NPC sell order, the ISK is removed from your wallet and transferred to an NPC corporation. Transferring ISK to an NPC corporation effectively removes it from the game;
- Clone upgrades and installation of jump clones to NPC stations;
- War declarations. Each war declaration requires tax to be paid to CONCORD;
- Loyalty Point (LP) stores. When you buy something from an Loyalty point store, you may spend ISK (ISK Cost in the LP Store window) in order to get your desired item;
- Planetary interaction taxes in high security space. A part of the taxes you pay when you import/export something to/from the planet goes to an NPC corporation;
- Ship insurance investment if your ship doesn't blow up during the length of the insurance contract;
- Upgrading Factional warfare systems. Factional warfare systems are upgraded by donating ISK to an NPC entity at the Factional warfare infrastructure hub;
- Industrial jobs in empire space stations (research, manufacturing, copying of blueprints,...)

Some more complex activities and borderline cases (not a complete list):

- Mining.
Mining is neutral (is not ISK sink or faucet) when you use your mined minerals to produce anything but ships.
Mining is an indirect ISK faucet when you build a ship with your mined minerals, that ship explodes and gets insurance payout.
Mining can be even an indirect ISK sink when you sell you ore/minerals on the market and pay the transaction tax to the SCC

- Salvaging.
Salvaging is neutral when you build and use rigs from salvaged materials.
Salvaging can be an indirect ISK sink if you sell salvaged materials on the market and pay the transaction tax to the SCC.
Salvaging is NOT an ISK faucet as there is no way that you can get any ISK from an NPC entity for any activity related to salvaged materials or their products.

- PLEX and Aurum.
PLEX and Aurum are neutral if you buy them for cash and spend them directly on activating game time or buying from the Nex Store.
PLEX can be an indirect ISK sink if you sell PLEX on the market and pay the transaction tax to the SCC.
PLEX is NOT an ISK faucet. Although you get a significant amount of ISK by selling a PLEX, the ISK that you get will always come from another player.
Increasing the volume of traded PLEXes is actually an increase of the ISK sink as more transaction taxes are paid to an NPC entity.

- Factional Warfare missions and complexes.
This is a more complicated activity that can be at the same time an ISK sink and an ISK faucet.
When you get a mission reward (or time bonus) from the agent, that is an ISK faucet.
When you pick up and sell navy insignias from the wrecks to NPC buy orders, that's an ISK faucet.
When you use the tags you have gathered directly in an LP store and pay some additional ISK in order to cash out your loyalty points, that's an ISK sink.
If you exchange your Loyalty points for anything other than a ship/ship blueprint and pay some ISK during the cash out, that's an ISK sink.
If you sell what you get from an LP store on the market, that's an ISK sink (since you pay the transaction tax and the ISK you get comes from another player).
The only way to turn your Loyalty points to and ISK faucet is to exchange your Loyalty points for a ship or ship blueprint, since insurance is an ISK faucet.



Here's a nice and simple graph made in Paint Smile
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1312/sinksandfaucets.jpg
Roxie Glitz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-12-08 07:57:19 UTC
Okay.. thanks I guess? You could start a career at EN24
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-12-08 08:23:35 UTC
I'd argue that player bounties are a pseudo sink, since it's highly unlikely that all of bounty ISK will ever be payed out.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-12-08 08:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
PVP in general is an isk sink. Just ask my very sad wallet.

EDIT: deleted "Low sec" from in front of PVP because any PVP costs money...

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Shalashaska Adam
Snakes and Lasers
#5 - 2013-12-08 08:53:10 UTC
-Incursions

Every HQ site completed is 1,260,000,000.00 isk and 280,000 LP added to the economy by Concord.

These sites are completed every 5-10 minutes once just a couple of fleets gets to work in a system.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#6 - 2013-12-08 09:14:28 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PVP in general is an isk sink. Just ask my very sad wallet.

EDIT: deleted "Low sec" from in front of PVP because any PVP costs money...


When your space pixels explode, you get paid insurance money for things that were made out of minerals, moongoo or wormhole droppings. The isk you paid for those items stills resides in other players wallets.

Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#7 - 2013-12-08 09:54:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
What was the point of this thread anyway? More then half of the competent eve players already know this..and if u did it for the new bros then cheers,but i seriously doubt they even care about such things..

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#8 - 2013-12-08 10:00:38 UTC
Move to Newbie forum?

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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-12-08 14:04:14 UTC
Welcome to game design 101, do you want a cookie?

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#10 - 2013-12-08 15:01:11 UTC
Other sinks: BPOs you buy from the NPCs, ISK removed due to EULA violations, including that on banned accounts.

A pseudo sink is people leaving the game. Technically their ISK is still in the game but its locked up and cannot effect the economy. To compliment that a returning player would have to be considered an ISK faucet.

Also: The ISK pool contains ISK in the corporate wallets.

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Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#11 - 2013-12-08 16:44:43 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-12-08 16:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Alduin666 Shikkoken
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Welcome to game design 101, do you want a cookie?


Cake would be better.


/me gives Antihrist Pripravnik a cookie.

Edit: Wow this and my next post was meant to be all in one post . . . I dont even ShockedWhat?Ugh

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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-12-08 16:48:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Alduin666 Shikkoken
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Welcome to game design 101, do you want a cookie?


Cake would be better.


/me gives Antihrist Pripravnik some cake.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#14 - 2013-12-08 18:43:01 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:

- Upgrading Factional warfare systems. Factional warfare systems are upgraded by donating ISK to an NPC entity at the Factional warfare infrastructure hub;


You donate LP, not ISK.
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-12-08 18:56:34 UTC
Resumed:

Theres a LOT more faucets than sinks


.. which is good.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2013-12-08 19:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Too many specifics, to few general patterns. P

Faucets:
  • NPC bounties
  • NPC buy orders
  • Agent rewards: Mission rewards, Mission time bonuses, Incursion rewards, Deposit repayment
  • Insurance payout
  • GM actions: Reimbursement for lost pods
  • Character creation

Sinks:
  • Market taxes & fees: Broker fees, Sales tax
  • NPC sell orders
  • NPC station services: Repairs, Jump clone installation, Medical clone installation/upgrade/station change, Science and industry slot rental, Ship insurance
  • NPC station office fees: Rent, Impound penalties
  • Wardecs
  • Sovereignty fees
  • PI fees: Building PI structures, Import/export tax (from NPC-owned and highsec customs offices)
  • Corp & alliance fees: Corp creation, Alliance creation, Alliance upkeep, Creating/awarding medals, Corp registry ads
  • Agent fees: (Certain) LP store items, Locator agent services, Courier missions w/ deposits
  • CSPA Charges
  • Smuggling fines
  • GM Actions: Removal of bought ISK, Removal of insurance after ship reimbursement
  • Character deletion (including the “soft sink” of accounts being frozen or banned, and the even softer sink of accounts being abandoned forever)
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#17 - 2013-12-08 19:03:06 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:

- Upgrading Factional warfare systems. Factional warfare systems are upgraded by donating ISK to an NPC entity at the Factional warfare infrastructure hub;


You donate LP, not ISK.

Correct... Don't know why I was thinking ISKOops