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Cald/Min faction ship ideas
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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1 - 2013-12-07 20:05:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. "Mordus Legion"
This will only be the layout for the battleship.

Doru

Caldari Battleship Bonuses:
5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire

Minmatar Battleship Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount
100% bonus to remote shield repairer range
50% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo velocity OR 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius
20% decrease in ship signature radius

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers
Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ?
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ?
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8
Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 420
Cargo Capacity: 700

Please fill in where the ? are and input and ideas are more then welcome.

Have it look like the child of these 2 ships
http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptships/koshime_concept_ship.jpg

http://theskyunion.com/eos9-small.jpg
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#2 - 2013-12-07 20:12:30 UTC
Why six low slots?

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#3 - 2013-12-07 20:13:51 UTC
I honestly don't know, I just kinda went with the Nestor sent up there. I'd rather 7H, 7M, 5L but I'm not sure if it be too strong then
Atlanti IV
Galactic Conglomerate
#4 - 2013-12-07 20:35:16 UTC
Isn't Mordus Legion a caldari/gallente Pirate Faction. Not Minmatar?
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#5 - 2013-12-07 20:36:29 UTC
Shhhh, there are NO other options for a Cald/Min faction. So edit that post out, and hurry! haha
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#6 - 2013-12-07 23:48:32 UTC
I'd love to see a kings-of-missiles Caldari/Minmatar pirate faction. Which one? Well, we have Mordus' Legion, Equilibrium of Mankind and the Ammatar as the still non-playable factions. However, none of them (excepting Mordus' Legion, perhaps) would fit those 2 empires' combination.

Perhaps their bonuses should go towards full use of their missiles: damage, explosion radius, explosion velocity, max velocity, max flight time. I can picture a ship shooting very fast and powerful missiles. Many of them.

Being Caldari+Minmatar, seems like shields are the way to go; that would also define their asthetics (armor ships tend to have curved, featurless armors for maximun resiliance, while shield ships tend to be more blocky and pointy as they don't have to worry about those fragile parts being hit). They could also benefit from a Target Painter bonus, coming from the Minmatar.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#7 - 2013-12-07 23:55:18 UTC
Quote:
20% decrease in ship signature radius

is bad role bonus. It is much easier to just incorporate it to base hull stats.

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#8 - 2013-12-08 00:09:23 UTC
Quote:


I'd love to see a kings-of-missiles Caldari/Minmatar pirate faction. Which one? Well, we have Mordus' Legion, Equilibrium of Mankind and the Ammatar as the still non-playable factions. However, none of them (excepting Mordus' Legion, perhaps) would fit those 2 empires' combination.

Perhaps their bonuses should go towards full use of their missiles: damage, explosion radius, explosion velocity, max velocity, max flight time. I can picture a ship shooting very fast and powerful missiles. Many of them.

Being Caldari+Minmatar, seems like shields are the way to go; that would also define their asthetics (armor ships tend to have curved, featurless armors for maximun resiliance, while shield ships tend to be more blocky and pointy as they don't have to worry about those fragile parts being hit). They could also benefit from a Target Painter bonus, coming from the Minmatar.


EoM are Amarr ships that use hybrids, so that would be either Amarr/Gal or Amarr/Cald.

Ammatar also would be more Amarr/Min

I also think the ship I posted has a good deal of missile bonuses
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#9 - 2013-12-08 00:11:04 UTC
Quote:
is bad role bonus. It is much easier to just incorporate it to base hull stats.


It isn't too bad a bonus, and I don't know what other bonus to add. Needs something else. As it's more close to the SoE, it needed at least another bonus, honestly, the SoE still had one more bonus then this did. shhhh
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#10 - 2013-12-08 00:56:03 UTC
i thought mordos was caldari run but used minmatar soldiers/prisoners in its ranks and thats why they were so feared (read the chronicle far too long ago)

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#11 - 2013-12-08 01:12:03 UTC
You got a link to that lore?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2013-12-08 02:16:18 UTC
I'd be happy with a skinned Raven.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#13 - 2013-12-08 03:00:57 UTC
nope I want whole new models for the frigate, cruiser AND battleship. And strip clubs in them all \o/
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
#14 - 2013-12-08 03:04:17 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Why six low slots?


The Rattlesnake has 6 lows, and is a shield tanking ship, so I'm not seeing an issue.
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
#15 - 2013-12-08 03:23:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zvaarian the Red
Also I think I'd like to see a 50% bonus to target painters as the special ability rather than the remote boost bonuses. Trade a low for a mid and you're looking good.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#16 - 2013-12-08 03:41:06 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
nope I want whole new models for the frigate, cruiser AND battleship. And strip clubs in them all \o/

I want them to revert rapid light launchers, while we're making our wish list...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#17 - 2013-12-08 05:55:23 UTC
In general it'd be nice to have another series of missile-based faction hulls available. Right now, out of the six series of faction hulls, five pirates plus Sisters, only one is missile-based.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#18 - 2013-12-08 06:37:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Quote:
is bad role bonus. It is much easier to just incorporate it to base hull stats.


It isn't too bad a bonus, and I don't know what other bonus to add. Needs something else. As it's more close to the SoE, it needed at least another bonus, honestly, the SoE still had one more bonus then this did. shhhh

what i meant is that is doesnt make any sense as role bonus. Just set sig to 340 and remove that bonus to avoid clutter. SoE BS bonuses are designed in a way that you cannot use them all at once - thats why there are 5 of them..

Also as it is not a drone boat it should have 21 slot layout, consider adding medium slot for 7/7/6 layout to match other non-drone faction BS.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#19 - 2013-12-08 07:33:34 UTC
CCP have hinted the Gile/Snake etc might see a redesign towards missiles. See SoE thread for details. Very vague hint but was in response to concerns over it stepping on them
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
#20 - 2013-12-08 12:53:41 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
CCP have hinted the Gile/Snake etc might see a redesign towards missiles. See SoE thread for details. Very vague hint but was in response to concerns over it stepping on them


But those are the only shield tank drone boats in the game. Honestly if they do that I will be seriously pissed off.
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