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FEDNEWS: Police seek help in identifying victims of massacre
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Alain en Thielles
Federation News
#1 - 2013-12-07 03:23:53 UTC
Police seek help in identifying victims of massacre

Dodixie - The Federation Police Service is seeking public assistance to identify victims of a gruesome massacre that occurred last week. A large number of young men and women, some believed to be teenagers, were found slaughtered at a private residence in what police are describing as 'a scene of wanton and indiscriminate violence'. Early indications suggest difficulty in identification, as no victims have been named at this time.

In a public statement, Federation police say the victims were found after responding to noise complaints. Federal Inspector Ygola, who is leading a newly created investigative taskforce with the cooperation of the Federal Intelligence Office, stated that it is still too early in the investigation to determine motive, but the residence is known to police.

"It is associated with illicit trade and the manner of the attack appears targeted. The state in which [the victims] were discovered has created difficulties in identification, but we are currently questioning several persons of interest." Inspector Ygola said that the events are still an active criminal investigation, adding that he could not provide more information about what happened.

An unnamed source close to the investigation, speaking under condition of anonymity, stated that the house was the known site of 'blood-parties'. These events are a rising social trend among Gallente youth, involving gothic apparel and fashion, and named for the consumption of 'blood' fashioned drinks that occurs. This unnamed source also stated that the victims were allegedly found tortured and dismembered, with multiple chalices filled with blood on promises.

Investigators would like to speak with all witnesses, and anyone with information, including details about the circumstances that led up to this event, is asked to contact the Federation Police.

Alain en Thielles, Federation News.

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Louella Dougans
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
#2 - 2013-12-07 08:52:22 UTC
Sounds like the Sani Sabik.

See, the Empire warned the Gallente that offering the Sani Sabik sanctuary from "religious persecution", was a bad idea.

But no, the Federation didn't listen. And that Blood Raider pop singer Midna Lyre tops the charts, and there are sacrifices in the streets just like this.

The only solution would be to eradicate the Sani Sabik, but of course, that goes against the Federation's "Freedom of Religion" law things.

Be a Space Nun, it is fun. \o/
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#3 - 2013-12-07 17:58:24 UTC
Look on the bright side ... if all of the Sani Sabik end up moving to the Federation then they're no longer our problem.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-12-07 22:44:59 UTC
This would seem to be more an incident of someone being... nonplussed at those claiming false beliefs.

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#5 - 2013-12-08 01:12:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Silas Vitalia wrote:
This would seem to be more an incident of someone being... nonplussed at those claiming false beliefs.


Ok I'll give you a point on this one ... yeah, we probably would have "police (conveniently) baffled" if a bunch of Sabik got themselves hamburgered in the Empire. I won't deny it - we're not friends of the Sabik, they're not welcome, and that's exactly what you'd expect. We'd be completely unapologetic about it, too.

But at least we wouldn't be preaching "religious tolerance" to the public while doing so ... unlike some nations we could name ...

Oh, and before the Gallente go blaming the Amarr for their "Sabik problems," let me pre-emptively retort that in two words: Rogue Drones.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Dewgong
Order of the Black Dagger
#6 - 2013-12-08 01:13:01 UTC
The actions of one do not entirely reflect the actions of many, nor is there solid evidence stating it was a Sabik, or in a more probable sense, a Blood Raider.

For all we know it could have been some upset father about their youth's habits and social attitude.

Regardless, I can see how some might be angered by such clubs, as it feels like a mockery of one's lifestyle being sold to the masses.
Kel hound
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-08 10:19:46 UTC
Out of curiosity, were any capsulers seen in the area? I know there was a convention in the system that week and I'm not sure if it is a coincidence or not.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2013-12-08 16:33:48 UTC
I'm more interested in learning why this made news on the IGS. It's an unfortunate fact of life, but this happens with some regularity in baseliner society. I wouldn't say common, but on any given planet a crime of this magnitude has happened at least once or twice in the last decade.

It may be the Sabik, or it may be a group of Sabik immitators, or it could be the results of an incredibly bad hallucinogenic drug trip, or it could be a particularly violent vigilante reaction, or any number of things.

Not that we shouldn't discuss it, as we may have the resources to help investigations like this. I'm just wondering why this one in particular.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Cuci Cairi
#9 - 2013-12-09 22:29:04 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:
I'm more interested in learning why this made news on the IGS. It's an unfortunate fact of life, but this happens with some regularity in baseliner society. I wouldn't say common, but on any given planet a crime of this magnitude has happened at least once or twice in the last decade.

It may be the Sabik, or it may be a group of Sabik immitators, or it could be the results of an incredibly bad hallucinogenic drug trip, or it could be a particularly violent vigilante reaction, or any number of things.

Not that we shouldn't discuss it, as we may have the resources to help investigations like this. I'm just wondering why this one in particular.


Probably just as simple as a slow news day or a bored reporter.
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#10 - 2013-12-10 14:09:05 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:
I'm more interested in learning why this made news on the IGS. It's an unfortunate fact of life, but this happens with some regularity in baseliner society. I wouldn't say common, but on any given planet a crime of this magnitude has happened at least once or twice in the last decade.

It may be the Sabik, or it may be a group of Sabik immitators, or it could be the results of an incredibly bad hallucinogenic drug trip, or it could be a particularly violent vigilante reaction, or any number of things.

Not that we shouldn't discuss it, as we may have the resources to help investigations like this. I'm just wondering why this one in particular.


If I could I would make it so no one ever dies outside of natural causes. That being said however its important to not loss touch with death. Death is the reminder that all things end and more importantly end cruelly.

I am not bound by death so its all the more important that I focus with all my will to not forget the plight of the people I used to walk amongst daily. These days as I have been busy planet-side I find it easier but I know when I take back the pod its easy to forget life and death outside of numbers.

Maybe it is a slow day in the news room but that doesn't mean we forget where we came from.

I always loathed the term 'baseliner'

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.
Cuci Cairi
#11 - 2013-12-10 15:23:19 UTC
Kithrus wrote:


If I could I would make it so no one ever dies outside of natural causes. That being said however its important to not loss touch with death. Death is the reminder that all things end and more importantly end cruelly.

I am not bound by death so its all the more important that I focus with all my will to not forget the plight of the people I used to walk amongst daily. These days as I have been busy planet-side I find it easier but I know when I take back the pod its easy to forget life and death outside of numbers.

Maybe it is a slow day in the news room but that doesn't mean we forget where we came from.

I always loathed the term 'baseliner'


I do not understand this nostalgia for one's days as a baseliner. Remembering where you came from? You do realize you can go back and visit anytime you wish, right? Quit glorifying insignificance and simply go visit your beloved home.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-12-10 16:11:00 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
Constantin Baracca wrote:
I'm more interested in learning why this made news on the IGS. It's an unfortunate fact of life, but this happens with some regularity in baseliner society. I wouldn't say common, but on any given planet a crime of this magnitude has happened at least once or twice in the last decade.

It may be the Sabik, or it may be a group of Sabik immitators, or it could be the results of an incredibly bad hallucinogenic drug trip, or it could be a particularly violent vigilante reaction, or any number of things.

Not that we shouldn't discuss it, as we may have the resources to help investigations like this. I'm just wondering why this one in particular.


If I could I would make it so no one ever dies outside of natural causes. That being said however its important to not loss touch with death. Death is the reminder that all things end and more importantly end cruelly.

I am not bound by death so its all the more important that I focus with all my will to not forget the plight of the people I used to walk amongst daily. These days as I have been busy planet-side I find it easier but I know when I take back the pod its easy to forget life and death outside of numbers.

Maybe it is a slow day in the news room but that doesn't mean we forget where we came from.

I always loathed the term 'baseliner'


To that end, Kithrus, I actually live in baseliner society (in my experience they don't mind the term so much since they have a general opinion that being a capsuleer isn't good for your health) and it isn't as much that I've lost touch with death and instead that I'm surrounded by the human consequences of it. Why this grisly murder on this planet in this system? Even forgetting the massacres we perpetrate on each others' crews, there are wild serial killings all over.

I was simply wondering why this particular one was mentioned on the IGS even though the article doesn't contain anything pertinent to capsuleers. It doesn't mention one of us was suspected to be the perpetrator, nor victim, nor ancillary party, nor to even be remotely involved enough to help this investigation.

Something tells me one of those is actually the case, they simply haven't told us yet.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#13 - 2013-12-10 20:29:05 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Kithrus wrote:


If I could I would make it so no one ever dies outside of natural causes. That being said however its important to not loss touch with death. Death is the reminder that all things end and more importantly end cruelly.

I am not bound by death so its all the more important that I focus with all my will to not forget the plight of the people I used to walk amongst daily. These days as I have been busy planet-side I find it easier but I know when I take back the pod its easy to forget life and death outside of numbers.

Maybe it is a slow day in the news room but that doesn't mean we forget where we came from.

I always loathed the term 'baseliner'


I do not understand this nostalgia for one's days as a baseliner. Remembering where you came from? You do realize you can go back and visit anytime you wish, right? Quit glorifying insignificance and simply go visit your beloved home.


I'm not talking about some inability to 'go back' as much as when your piloting a 13,000 crew battleship in a vast battle (and I've been in many) life seems cheap. Its in that moment you need your humanity more then ever.

Constantin Baracca wrote:


To that end, Kithrus, I actually live in baseliner society (in my experience they don't mind the term so much since they have a general opinion that being a capsuleer isn't good for your health) and it isn't as much that I've lost touch with death and instead that I'm surrounded by the human consequences of it. Why this grisly murder on this planet in this system? Even forgetting the massacres we perpetrate on each others' crews, there are wild serial killings all over.

I was simply wondering why this particular one was mentioned on the IGS even though the article doesn't contain anything pertinent to capsuleers. It doesn't mention one of us was suspected to be the perpetrator, nor victim, nor ancillary party, nor to even be remotely involved enough to help this investigation.

Something tells me one of those is actually the case, they simply haven't told us yet.


I think it shouldn't matter and its a reminder then people die and to respect death and life. Maybe they suspect it has something to do with us but for now lets take it for what it is.

A reminder.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2013-12-10 22:36:46 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Kithrus wrote:


If I could I would make it so no one ever dies outside of natural causes. That being said however its important to not loss touch with death. Death is the reminder that all things end and more importantly end cruelly.

I am not bound by death so its all the more important that I focus with all my will to not forget the plight of the people I used to walk amongst daily. These days as I have been busy planet-side I find it easier but I know when I take back the pod its easy to forget life and death outside of numbers.

Maybe it is a slow day in the news room but that doesn't mean we forget where we came from.

I always loathed the term 'baseliner'


I do not understand this nostalgia for one's days as a baseliner. Remembering where you came from? You do realize you can go back and visit anytime you wish, right? Quit glorifying insignificance and simply go visit your beloved home.


I'm not talking about some inability to 'go back' as much as when your piloting a 13,000 crew battleship in a vast battle (and I've been in many) life seems cheap. Its in that moment you need your humanity more then ever.

Constantin Baracca wrote:


To that end, Kithrus, I actually live in baseliner society (in my experience they don't mind the term so much since they have a general opinion that being a capsuleer isn't good for your health) and it isn't as much that I've lost touch with death and instead that I'm surrounded by the human consequences of it. Why this grisly murder on this planet in this system? Even forgetting the massacres we perpetrate on each others' crews, there are wild serial killings all over.

I was simply wondering why this particular one was mentioned on the IGS even though the article doesn't contain anything pertinent to capsuleers. It doesn't mention one of us was suspected to be the perpetrator, nor victim, nor ancillary party, nor to even be remotely involved enough to help this investigation.

Something tells me one of those is actually the case, they simply haven't told us yet.


I think it shouldn't matter and its a reminder then people die and to respect death and life. Maybe they suspect it has something to do with us but for now lets take it for what it is.

A reminder.


It would be quite the reminder.

Most capsuleers kill hundreds and thousands of mortal crew members daily. If they're trying to remind us of human tragedy, they've picked a strange example.

This is the sort of thing I usually have to help families through on the ground, not something capsuleers care much about in space.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Cuci Cairi
#15 - 2013-12-11 00:16:22 UTC
Kithrus wrote:


I'm not talking about some inability to 'go back' as much as when your piloting a 13,000 crew battleship in a vast battle (and I've been in many) life seems cheap. Its in that moment you need your humanity more then ever.


In a literal sense, life is cheap. Whether or not someone chooses to place high normative value on each life is another matter, but the daily existence of crew and random baseliners is cheap in a literal sense.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2013-12-11 20:02:39 UTC
I find it interesting everyone jumped to the conclusion that because blood was involved it HAD to have been a Sani Sabik.
There's absolutely zero other groups that could be responsible for this? It couldn't have just been some random deranged individual?

Jumping to conclusions could be harmful, the mind has a nack for filtering out what it thinks is irrelevant, son once you decide what the thing you are looking for looks like, you can easily completely miss what you are looking for by ignoring it because it doesn't fit your preconceptions.



I guess it's good you guys aren't investigators.
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#17 - 2013-12-11 20:08:12 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Kithrus wrote:


I'm not talking about some inability to 'go back' as much as when your piloting a 13,000 crew battleship in a vast battle (and I've been in many) life seems cheap. Its in that moment you need your humanity more then ever.


In a literal sense, life is cheap. Whether or not someone chooses to place high normative value on each life is another matter, but the daily existence of crew and random baseliners is cheap in a literal sense.


if you have 0 morality then sure

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.
Anslo
Scope Works
#18 - 2013-12-11 20:16:35 UTC
Convinient situation to pressure Sabik in the Fed and get the public offended enough to demand regulation.

Very convinient.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Dewgong
Order of the Black Dagger
#19 - 2013-12-12 05:21:56 UTC
Why must it be the entire Sabik faith concluded by the masses when it could very well be just the Raiders who may have had a hand? The masses often forget that the Raiders are just a small faction within the larger faith, much like how the Imperial families are all small parts of the whole Empire.
Dangirdas Bachir
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-12 07:41:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Dangirdas Bachir
I can smell some Blood Raider influence..

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