Crime & Punishment

Seeing as Poetic still hasnt come up with the data he mentioned some time ago, here's our data in the form of a pie chart (created by one of our members): http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5735/eunimembers.jpg. Median/Mean/Mode averages will all be skewed one way or another however due to members (such as our founder) being in the corp for coming up to 8 years now.

Here's the raw data, with another graph: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al2jkBWTkQjhdHhsenlOQWxsVlFoQVp5Nk9hcktoMlE. Again, prone to skewing, but it should be fairly clear.

Note that the time listed is cumulative, so someone who joins, leaves, then joins again will simply be adding to their time in the corp. Also note that we have a good few 'Honorary Members', mainly ex-directors, who are excluded from the 1 month inactivity kick, as well as director alts and similar.

At present, 'Graduate' status is typically available after 3 months in the corp, but historically it was 6 months or more, but at 3 months we start to see members moving on, although we have no upper limit. Similarly, over the last few months, positive publicity for EVE has been pretty lacking, meaning a lower quantity of newer players compared to this time last year (confirmed with multiple third parties), but this is likely to improve once Crucible hits and CCP ramp up advertising.

So, now you all have the data, as well as some context. Have fun with it.


Also, in getting these numbers, I had a look at the data for everyone who has ever been a member of E-UNI, and a very conservative total comes to around 302,000 weeks. That's 5,792 years, or €761,068 (or just over US$1,000,000) in subscriptions at the current best rate.

We don't want this at all, what are you talking about? I can only assume you're taking discussions about possible wardec changes held internally as our official stance on the matter. Personally I'm not sure how the mechanics should change, though I've read many different opinions on the matter. My personal desire is that CCP look at the situation and decide for themselves, and E-UNI as an entity has pushed for nothing more than that.


Shiptoaster, if you're going to call me a liar, at least provide some actual evidence. Yes we were invited to a meeting along with several other education institutions. If they want to reveal themselves then they're free to do so. The meeting was about how to help us teach players about the game, including stuff like maybe adding a teaching corp option to corporate advertisements and possible improvements to the new player experience and tutorials etc. It was entirely unrelated to wardec mechanic or policy changes. Again, I assert that we are little more than a source of feedback for CCP, and hold no sway over their decision making.


What? We came up with a new decshield in May of this year (the decshield was different to the one we had used in the past) and checked with CCP via petition whether it would be deemed an exploit or not. Any corporation could have submitted the same petition. If you're claiming that CCP made changes to their policies simply because we asked about a potential exploit, then I have no idea how we're supposed to prove that one way or the other. All I know is that we asked if it was an exploit and they said no. As for having proof that the rule was still being enforced for everybody but us, it's certainly a shame that you cannot post that evidence. Can you at least tell us if they were using an identical form of decshield to us and got in trouble for it? Or did they get in trouble for using a decshield like the one we used to use, which was still deemed an exploit?


I actually edited a redundancy out of the wiki as it originally stated that we existed to help new players twice in the first sentence. It was only thanks to your comments that I even noticed it, so thank you. Even though the wiki STILL noted that our primary focus is new players, I have once again edited it to be even clearer, just for you.

There is no duplicity involved, Shiptoaster. Our wiki clearly tracks all changes for anybody to see.


Again, I didn't lie about CCP approaching us. You claim that we have had private discussions with CCP about wardec mechanic and policy changes, which we haven't. Your use of a meeting that involved several other corporations, that was about an entirely different subject, is not proof that we have.

Regarding killboards, we run two: one that is manipulated for internal purposes and one that isn't manipulated at all. Why do we manipulate one? 'cause we can I guess. Who cares? Just read the other one. As for Kelduum lying and our war stats page being fixed you'll need to be more specific.

Regarding neutrality, I still fail to see how helping Chribba out is a violation of that anymore than attacking a pirate fleet in lowsec, blowing up a POS in a wormhole or any other kill our students are involved in on a daily basis. We knew there would be a fight and we had a large fleet on hand with nothing else to do - it was fun, get over it already.

Regarding non-profit, yes we make a fairly tidy sum from our tax, but very little "profit", which would imply earning more money than we spend. The University is a literal ISK sink and it's only through our tax revenue and donations combined that we can afford to run the place without taking substantial losses and eventually running out of funds entirely.

I'm beginning to get the impression that this is really all about the fact that you don't like us. You should just have stated that from the beginning and I wouldn't have had to spend so much time debating your baseless accusations. You don't need to make up reasons to not like us, you can simply not like us. That's honestly fine.

Everyone likes pie. Apart from Mr Toaster apparently, but he's just a big grump, so don't mind him.

I can't really answer that myself, as it's pretty much up to them individually, but as Asuri mentioned a few posts ago, we 'provide a community where people can ... meet others and form relationships, who then split off and become new corps in eve', so some may leave earlier, some later, but they tend to have learnt 'enough' after 4 months or so.

Again, that depends on the member - its not uncommon for someone to join in order to learn Industrial aspects, and end up being more combat focussed.

With all members, after the first few months they're increasingly likely to get involved with the running of the corp in one way or another, teaching classes, recruiting, and so on up to Director level - I started as a regular newbie back in 2006 myself, and now look where I am.

dear toaster, i am still missing requested information on the "progress of your operation".

dear euni-members, anyone got really affected by it yet?

anyway, it would be great if we get some supportive voices for making ganking harder... this thread seems to shift more and more to personal matters

when the new tier 3 BC will hit tranquility i think we will see a winter ganking season

You would be hard pressed to find anyone more butthurt than the OP...Hard Effin Pressed...HAHAHAHAAA...This is hilarious.His tears,Omfg my carebear fueltank will be full for years from just his first post.

Whenever I read these types of threads I always read the OP in a high pitched whiny voice. Am I the only one?

Tears?

This is all meta-game fun.

I'm not entirely anti-Uni.

What alliances have had the greatest positive (or negative) influence on EVE Online? Why?

This game is so sad... all you have to do to be famous is be a **** poster....

Yes. CCP's heavy fleet defeated me on SISI at the battle of umadbro and I had to quit EVE in shame. I did pay PL to get me some CCP payback and rejoined EVE today in glorious victory.

(No I did not really pay PL this was a joke for those with no sense of humour and a 'tard implant)

this is a nullsec kill. wasnt this about bringing shock and awe to highsec bears? well, tier 3 BC are about to enter tranquility so there is hope for your project i guess... anyone found another use for them than ganking?