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Drone Agro Issues
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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#41 - 2013-12-04 11:23:16 UTC
as someone who makes their isk off of running a loki with lights in c3 and c5 sites I giggle at this thread.

l2p

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Balshem Rozenzweig
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-12-05 12:33:25 UTC
Turk MacRumien wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Any mission drone boats which rely on lights/meds as its main weapon will fail.


Ha! No. I use drones in a myrm at 30-40 kms all the time, and I don't lose them that often. lock targets, start shooting w/ turrets, deploy drones and send them off. It's not that easy to lose them. Occasionally rats will switch aggro in the midst of a fight, but most times they don't hit enough to kill my drones before I notice. I think the easiest way to cut down on dps heading towards your drones is just to prioritize small (frigs and destroyers) targets once you enter a room. Once you've done that, cruiser and bc rats can't hit mediums well enough to kill them before you notice.

Unless they're shooting missiles. God I hate seeing missiles ships as a drone boat

And for everyone talking about the aggressive stance, put your drones on passive so they don't fly around willy-nilly targeting everything.


this.

I run level 3 missions (not enough standing/SP to do L4s) but I do encounter elite frigs. All I do is to target them with my HMs as prio. After one salvo I send drones and it seems to work perfectly.

For level 4s I plan to stick with HMs in RHMLs Armageddon. Gonna see how it works out, but I guess it will be doable with missile/drone/armor skills I currently have (weird I know - was going for turrets but level 2 barricade taught me to avoid anything disruptable :P).

As for rockets - they hurt but again... You aggro frigs first, you aggro bigger ships first, and AI will switch aggro only on rare occasions when you reload and at the same time drone start to do crazy well.

"NUTS!!!" - general McAuliffe
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#43 - 2013-12-05 12:53:20 UTC
Thufir Bezluden wrote:
No fun training millions of SP for drones so they can be ripped to bits by bots using something closer to sleeper Ai and instantly agro them. Don't get me wrong, I like that they'll take some heat for being the ship raping sob's they are, but to have half my drones eaten in a level 3 within a minute when I have full agro is just wrong. Tone it down so drone skills won't just be for pvp.

How about removing the aggressive so you have to order the drones to attack a target. No orders, no attack. Must be a better way to ruin 'botters' day than screw it up for people actually playing.


You can switch your drones from Aggressive to Passive.

Thank me later :D
Jung-Hwa Stenier-Tian
Angry Rampant Space Gerbils
#44 - 2013-12-06 02:26:53 UTC
I have found drones to be utterly unusable, regardless of tactics or skills. Sentries still die en mass to battleships, and light drones just get alpha'd off the field before the client has loaded them. Completely worthless.
Neor Deninard
Blackwater Coalition Forces
Harkonnen Federation
#45 - 2013-12-06 07:00:02 UTC
Jung-Hwa Stenier-Tian wrote:
I have found drones to be utterly unusable, regardless of tactics or skills. Sentries still die en mass to battleships, and light drones just get alpha'd off the field before the client has loaded them. Completely worthless.


If I loose 1 sentry every 2 months it's a lot, and if it happens it's usually cause I'm not paying enough attention.

Pull sentries in if they start taking too much damage. Train the bloody support skills boosting hp/shield/tracking etc... and learn to use them from 100km+ . Use a remote repper if you want.

Only gurista's and some sansha BS shoot so far.

Just because you can't figure out how to use something it means that it's broken. Same for sending a flight of lights into a group of 5+ frigates/cruisers; what in all reality are you expencting to happen? Maybe they should just code in a button 'I win' saves everyone the hassle of learning the game and training (support) skills.
Dextrome Thorphan
#46 - 2013-12-06 08:32:24 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
as someone who makes their isk off of running a loki with lights in c3 and c5 sites I giggle at this thread.

l2p


Anybody using drones for pve needs to l2p? Funny perspective...
Cross C Ragweed
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-12-06 23:03:43 UTC
Well this thread is depressing ... as I decided to go after drone boats and want to do some missioning for awhile.

I just barely got a T1 Vexor put together (not skilled up enough to T2 goodies yet) and planning on working out of a 0.3 lowsec station on L2 missions.

I've only done one L2 mission with it so far (which it excelled at), where my previous Algos and Catalyst were getting their butts kicked.

I think I would eventually like to go back to FW/PvP, but would like to work up through some L3 possibly L4 missions for awhile.

Am I going to regret the high percent of my current sp into drones, as well as a ton more I was planning on?
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-12-07 01:02:10 UTC
Cross C Ragweed wrote:
Well this thread is depressing ... as I decided to go after drone boats and want to do some missioning for awhile.

I just barely got a T1 Vexor put together (not skilled up enough to T2 goodies yet) and planning on working out of a 0.3 lowsec station on L2 missions.

I've only done one L2 mission with it so far (which it excelled at), where my previous Algos and Catalyst were getting their butts kicked.

I think I would eventually like to go back to FW/PvP, but would like to work up through some L3 possibly L4 missions for awhile.

Am I going to regret the high percent of my current sp into drones, as well as a ton more I was planning on?

Nah just get into an Ishtar, train sentries and heavies. With Ishtars bonus to speed and tracking you'll be able to ignore light and medium drones altogether. Same as Dominix.

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