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most basic skills for a c5 and will any corps recruit such a person.

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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#1 - 2013-12-06 10:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
Hi,long title..

So i was reading the other thread about how much people make in c5's and i was baffled...

So , i have wh experience just never farmed in a c5 before, i assume a tengu is still viable so could someone link me a fit thats standard for c5 farming? Also curios if any corp out there would accept a guy like me :)

P.s. i've mostly pvp'd thus far so i aint a pure blooded carebear
Thank you and sorry for beeing stupid!

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-12-06 11:56:15 UTC
To make the big $$ in C5/C6 you need a capital or a webbing loki, preferably both. Tengus fare better soloing C3s.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#3 - 2013-12-06 14:44:04 UTC
yeah i know i realize that bu , i was asking more as a fleet thing .. with the fleet what should i aim for to be most helpfull ?

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Bamsey Amraa
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-12-06 14:51:19 UTC
Skill for logistic then :)))
Zechariah Bragg
Jaded.
Riplomacy
#5 - 2013-12-06 15:27:08 UTC
CCP did a wonderful job with balancing the amount of loot you get from doing a proper c5/c6 site and how utterly BORING it is.

If you don't live in W-Space.....your opinions are invalid.

Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#6 - 2013-12-06 17:10:28 UTC
Zechariah Bragg wrote:
CCP did a wonderful job with balancing the amount of loot you get from doing a proper c5/c6 site and how utterly BORING it is.



isnt all PVE boring ? : P


i would skill logistics but i hate it , rather shoot the damn red crosses , now seriously can someone post me a standard c5 tengu fit please ? would v much apreciate it

thank you

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-06 17:19:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
You would be hard pressed to find a group that farmers C5 in tengus.

Also i'm curious, is farming all you do eve?
Le'Mon Tichim
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-12-06 17:30:03 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Zechariah Bragg wrote:
CCP did a wonderful job with balancing the amount of loot you get from doing a proper c5/c6 site and how utterly BORING it is.



isnt all PVE boring ? : P


i would skill logistics but i hate it , rather shoot the damn red crosses , now seriously can someone post me a standard c5 tengu fit please ? would v much apreciate it

thank you



Standard? There's no such thing. In a c5, the only subcap allowed into a site is a Loki, because they provide essential support for dreads.


If you're running RR fleets in a c5, you're doing it wrong, and your corpmates will be very upset that you wasted their pvp funds.

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Frantic Freddie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-06 18:48:43 UTC
Ignore the people saying "running C5/C6 without escalating it is pointless". It has several points:
1. If the hole is outside your home hole, you're probably not fully-escalating remote sites through a 3Bn mass wormhole. There's not enough available mass to do so.
2. If you run your neighbors' sites, you make ISK.
3. If you run your neighbors' sites, you increase the chances of more sites appearing in your home wormhole (if of the same class) so that you can escalate.
4. If you run your neighbors' sites, you get more chances for PvP because it really tends to **** them off. This, uh, may not apply to you. But it really, really applies to us :)
5. The nay-sayers have one valid point, though: the same fleet shredding C3s or C4s will typically have a better isk/hr ratio than C5/C6. But if you are anything like me, you're a bit of an opportunist, so won't it be nice to HAVE a C6 doctrine if you happen to get one opened near your home system by some intrepid explorer?

OK, so how do you do it in a Tengu fleet? We have a doctrine for our alliance, but it's not based on Tengus. However, here's a view from the outside by Splatus:
http://splatus.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/stalking-a-noctis-in-a-c6-wormhole/

So there's your basic recipe: Five Tengus and a Noctis

  • The fit should be capable of tanking around 3300DPS (max C5 anom DPS if you don't screw up a trigger)
  • Able to tank reasonably well while completely neuted dry.
  • Able to provide cap-stable remote reps without having to "pulse" the repper.
  • Do sufficient DPS to finish the sites in a reasonable amount of time.
  • Handle the fairly massive alpha strike of certain fresh waves without running out of shield EHP!


This fit will suit those requirements. You do have some dependency on capacitor for the one invuln, but if you're being primaried, you don't need to run the repper and are thus 90%+ stable and fairly resistant to neuts. With better skills/implants, you can swap out a CPR for another BCS, or possibly even go to quad faction BCS if you feel like dropping 400M+ ISK on just the ballistic control systems. And I'm certain people will argue about the merit of a Damage Control vs. another BCU. The DCU gives almost 500EHP/sec better tank ability with such high resists, and when first trying new doctrines I tend to favor tank over gank. You may find you can do just fine without it!

[Tengu, C5/C6 Site Runner]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithum C-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
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Large Remote Shield Booster II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay


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Nalestom Zypher
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-12-06 21:49:52 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Hi,long title..

So i was reading the other thread about how much people make in c5's and i was baffled...

So , i have wh experience just never farmed in a c5 before, i assume a tengu is still viable so could someone link me a fit thats standard for c5 farming? Also curios if any corp out there would accept a guy like me :)

P.s. i've mostly pvp'd thus far so i aint a pure blooded carebear
Thank you and sorry for beeing stupid!


If you get enough of them, RR Tengus are definitely viable, and I know of many corps that run C5 sites without escalations using them.

Are they likely to recruit a corp thief like you, though? No, probably not. =^)

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-12-06 23:42:08 UTC
Zechariah Bragg wrote:
CCP did a wonderful job with balancing the amount of loot you get from doing a proper c5/c6 site and how utterly BORING it is.

That seems to be the case everywhere in eve. The most fun I've had in pve was seeing a logi dc at the start of an incursion wave. Unfortunately we all survived.

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Sum Olgy
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-12-06 23:50:07 UTC
Most C5/C6 corps will want T2 armour and shield tanks, excellent fitting skills, the ability and desire to scan and the ability to fly a reasonable amount of ships. Ships like ECM Tengus are popular in PvP but will be armour tanked, not shield. Logi is always liked, especially Guardians. If I were you I'd look into training into Amarr - the Sacrilege is pretty good which kind of leads you to the Zealot and the Legion. Although with the change in training requirements now possibly cross training into Gallente wouldn't be too painful. Except drones, perhaps?

The skill requirements are mainly because if you can only fly a Drake and a Tengu you'll find you're just not be able to participate in a large amount of corp activities.

However most WH corps/Alliances have public channels so drop in and ask. We don't bite. Except Bite Me. P
ChrisLCTR
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#13 - 2013-12-06 23:56:07 UTC
Sum Olgy wrote:
Most C5/C6 corps will want T2 armour and shield tanks, excellent fitting skills, the ability and desire to scan and the ability to fly a reasonable amount of ships. Ships like ECM Tengus are popular in PvP but will be armour tanked, not shield. Logi is always liked, especially Guardians. If I were you I'd look into training into Amarr - the Sacrilege is pretty good which kind of leads you to the Zealot and the Legion. Although with the change in training requirements now possibly cross training into Gallente wouldn't be too painful. Except drones, perhaps?

The skill requirements are mainly because if you can only fly a Drake and a Tengu you'll find you're just not be able to participate in a large amount of corp activities.

However most WH corps/Alliances have public channels so drop in and ask. We don't bite. Except Bite Me. P



Expect to get a lot of 'serious' answers in public channels, some groups are better than others about the troll factor
Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#14 - 2013-12-07 00:17:48 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Hi,long title..

So i was reading the other thread about how much people make in c5's and i was baffled...

So , i have wh experience just never farmed in a c5 before, i assume a tengu is still viable so could someone link me a fit thats standard for c5 farming? Also curios if any corp out there would accept a guy like me :)

P.s. i've mostly pvp'd thus far so i aint a pure blooded carebear
Thank you and sorry for beeing stupid!



The one T3 you need to farm C5/6 is not the Tengu, also it doesnt even needs weapons.


As for basic skills, mining frig 5 gas cloud harvesting 5 :)
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#15 - 2013-12-07 09:06:11 UTC
Well thanks guys for the solid answers. I purely mentioned the tengu because i know its the ship to have for every other class..well more or less.. but like i said i've never ran sites in a c5 before so honestly i dunno..

I guess what im trying to say is what ship should i try and train for to be competent in combat anoms ?

Thanks again

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-12-07 10:20:16 UTC
Find the farming corp you want to join and then ask them the same question.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#17 - 2013-12-07 10:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
Rek Seven wrote:
Find the farming corp you want to join and then ask them the same question.



Man its not like i'm an idiot and don't know that..even though my gramar would imply that my iq is low i assure you its not the case,obv i'm gonna ask for help when i join a corp,i just came on the forum for some general feedback is all..

also,its not all about farming,if said corp has pvp opportunities u can bet your 5 dollar @$$ il be there on the front lines!

If your not willing to help atleast tell us a joke or something if u don't have anything better to do

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-12-07 12:33:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sith1s Spectre
Starbuck05 wrote:
Hi,long title..

So i was reading the other thread about how much people make in c5's and i was baffled...

So , i have wh experience just never farmed in a c5 before, i assume a tengu is still viable so could someone link me a fit thats standard for c5 farming? Also curios if any corp out there would accept a guy like me :)

P.s. i've mostly pvp'd thus far so i aint a pure blooded carebear
Thank you and sorry for beeing stupid!


Serious answer

Farming without using caps - can be done with Mauraders or 4 RR tengus

In regards to corps - best place to start is the "Notable WH Space Alliances" thread on these forums and find someone you like the sound of. Then join their public channel and introduce yourself.

Lastly - if you're proactive, can scan, are active and not an idiot, i'm sure one of those groups would be interested in you.

Best of luck,

Sith

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant

Eso Es
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-12-07 15:30:31 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Zechariah Bragg wrote:
CCP did a wonderful job with balancing the amount of loot you get from doing a proper c5/c6 site and how utterly BORING it is.



isnt all PVE boring ? : P


i would skill logistics but i hate it , rather shoot the damn red crosses , now seriously can someone post me a standard c5 tengu fit please ? would v much apreciate it

thank you


Once you get into a c4 and above, most anomolies will have very far spawns, you kill one wave then the next one pops 100+km away. Hence, the Tengus arent used nearly as much. More often you will probably see long range armor fleets, Sentry Domis, Artillery/Rail Battleships etc.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#20 - 2013-12-07 19:54:58 UTC
What use would be logistic in C5? You need trage archon. And without cap escallations you might as well stay in lower holes.
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