Crime & Punishment

Yes, high-sec "ganking" is perfectly within the rules. So much the devs even made a ship just for that. (Tell me, is there any other way to use the Tornado? Never saw one ...) I get it, it is a kind of money sink they have to have in the game.
What i do not understand is, why do I get a killright against someone who destroyed my ship and got "concorded" for it, and not the thief who stole the loot afterwards?
Even the killright is pointless as it is ONE chance to kill him. I know he flies ships for ganking, what is the chance that his "punishment" will be equal to my loss? If the Navy, Police and Concord forces are impotent that much I want to have the rights to punish them as I see fit. Not by sinking down to their level and fitting gank ships and hunting them to boredom - make them hurt. Especially when the character really profiting from piracy is on not even on the killmails.

Yes, I am aware that this might have come up before. Don't care. I do not read forums that much, but the nice GMs always say to any problem: Make a forum post about it. Here you are.

1400 nados are boss get out of highsec mate

Ouch, 2.5 bil tengu loss.

Shinnies never gets ganked in Osmon

Killrights on the looter would be almost as pointless as killrights on the gankers.

BTW, I would be willing to bet the looter is the same person doing the ganking 9 times out of 10.

You should focus more learning from your loss and figuring out how to avoid it in the future.

"sinking down to their level" is not a relevant comment, there is no e-honor in this game, if you think there is your are only fooling yourself. Use the tools available to you or don't, the choice is yours.

Nope, not in an universe where you are immortal, but need money for anything.to do.



Did. Got bored with FW. Wanted to do something else.



Isn't hard to be illiterate and use a computer? Have anything constructive to add? Do it. But please learn to write. English isn't my first language but I am at least trying.



Same person, but different alt in a different corp. Yes, killrights might be useless, but at least I can hit them back. If its a crime, it needs punishment - and not a "suspect status" where you just warp off for a while. Why does Concord kill you instantly if you shoot someones container, but let a thief run away, without even notifying me about the theft? Its about revenge. If the Concord does nothing, I want to.

I'm having trouble following your thought process here. It seems to me you are not thinking through the available options and how the system works.

To start with, you want vengeance without "sinking to their level". That is EXACTLY what a kill right does. It allows you to destroy their ship (and pod if you manage) without CONCORD intervention. You can also hire other people to exercise it for you, or even have people pay you to take revenge on your behalf.

You complain the kill right is useless. The only time the kill right is useless is when the ganker is already an outlaw. The reason the kill right is useless, is because you and your friends can already freely hunt this person everywhere, repeatedly. Again, this does nothing to deter you from your goal of taking revenge on the person and attacking them is not a suicide gank. On the contrary, the in-game faction police will come to your aid when you engage and warp scramble the criminal.

You can bide your time and follow him until you see him in something worthy of using the kill right. Should that not prove satisfactory, you have the option at your disposal to declare war on his corporation(s) and freely shoot at him and his friends.

You complain the looter only goes suspect. But all he did is steal some stuff from a wreck. You and your friends get the chance to stop him from leaving, blow him up and recover some of the loot. Once he docks up and loses the timer, the loot it gone. Furthermore, consider the situation of a friend of yours getting to your wreck first and saving the loot for you. He too goes suspect giving everyone around, including the ganker's looter, a chance to do something about it. Why should you get a kill right against your friend trying to help? Should the ganker likewise get one for looting his wreck after concord does their thing?

You say you want revenge, the tools are there. Friends make it easier.

As for Artillery Tornadoes, their primary function is engaging hostiles at long ranges to mitigate return fire. In a large enough pack to volley targets off the field before they repair or warp, while being relatively cheap and disposable.

the ganker scum in high sec arent worth your time. they are retards who eek out a living scrubbing bottom of barrel, who think a 2bil ship is 'jackpot' - leave them to their pathetic little dreams and move on. get to a wormhole and make that isk back in 1 hour. tops.

PS. i got ganked once because i had a a pair of navy nanos fitted to a fleet jamgu. the gankers made 4mil per pilot profit on my kill, or a 14mil loss per pilot if you count tags they have to buy to recoup the standings. this tells you something of their mental abilities. dont argue with (isBoxing 20 accounts) ******(s), just move on.

I loot ganked ships from time to time in my cloaked mammoth. Its the elephant in the room

not all gankers care about profit, theres gankers now that as long as your not flying a cruiser or higher, you considered to be in their space they will kill you just to make the kb look nice

So much rage in this guy it's cute.



&&& The carebear in this post is strong as ****.

Three questions. I answered the first two. Sue me.

I propose a little test. Make One system or cluster empire truly "safe" and lets see how much of the "player base" will be living there.

You might say this is a PvP game but some people want none of that. I went to WH space, got rich and bored; have flown around buttons waiting for a chance at PvP in FW - found stabbed, cloaked frigates, or 10 to one odds, got rich and bored. So sorry that I wanted a nice relaxing mission run. Alone. Not being part of a 100 people corp means I can't play the game I would like it? i feel like it's not my problem but the game's.