Assembly Hall

Not saying this should be fixed, because this is EVE after all, but...

You can call this "hunting", but with no method for people to hunt you back, it seems like a stupid annoyance to people trying to play the game. The only solution people are given is "dock up and don't do anything." Oh, that's cool. This jagoff could be alt tabbing and playing around on facebook for hours, but if i try to do something for two minutes he's probably going to come back and gank me.

Maybe I should facebook friend him, we can play farmville since we're going to do **** all in EVE while we wait for eachother.

Actually, you have something here. Remove afk people from local, and this problem goes away. When he comes back from afk, cloaked guy appears in local, giving the same kinda of "oh ****" reaction people annoyed with this problem expect to have.

Should a cloaked ship drop from local, the people who are active in the systems would not know of his/her presence.
Result, this would make it even easier to hot drop and apply force projection on any target in the system.
This would increase the element of surprise.
It would be a gankers dream come true.
you would be able to operate in any system with impunity.
should not the local in habitats have any tools to prevent protect or combat this?

Most of you who post on this thread would say no. we want free reign to hot drop or gank who we want whenever we want and we do not want them to know about it until it happens. If you do not believe this is a fair assessment than go back and re read what you have posted.

The effect of this is before long you would not have anyone to Gank as they "prey" would simply go play other games. No one wants to play a game where there is such an imbalance that you cannot do anything "yes properly fitted ships and aligned out would not matter as you the ganker would just bring enough to counter" You would effectively over hunt and no more fun for anyone.

Your job is too easy as it is. you sit in a system cloaked, check d scan every hour or so while you post pink ponies on facebook waiting for someone to be stupid. or you do it out of spite knowing the those who are there can do nothing while you are cloaked. so you log in in the morning on that account and leave it all day while you play on another account.
Please explain how the play of the above is balanced ?

AFK or not I want to hunt you if you cloak up in my system. if you are active the hunt will be more challenging but not impossible as it is now.

Baaldor - Yes I know how to deal with it, and No I am not a special snowflake and nor do I alone and my friends feel special.
We all know how to deal with. The problem that you and others do not address is that in dealing with it results in lots of space remaining unused. This is something we should have tools to deal with, that is all we are asking for.
A lot of the bigger entities in Null, even ones hostile to each other have pacts agreeing not to cloaky camp each other.
Yes we all have the same set of rules.
And the purpose of this forum Assembly Hall is to bring forth ideas and changes to those rules that will help the game improve.
I am not space raging. to be honest I make most of my isk in Jita and if I like could play without un docking to make isk for my other account to pvp with. That would be boring.
Point being I really like this game I think there are areas to improve, Balancing the AFK cloaker is one of those areas.

If you like the status quo then you are entitled to your opinion. I welcome open discussion of Pro's and con's for improvements of the game we all play.

Local is a chat channel.

The unintended fact that it can be used for intel in many ways, does not remove this as the primary reason for it's existence.

Local providing intel that influences decision making in the game, dumbs down game play.
We should be earning the intel, not having it handed to us.

When we earn something, we can compete to out perform other players, and in turn get better results. By giving us perfect results for free, intel is dropped from competition except in the remaining areas not being defined by local.
You expect these conditions in a tutorial, where you are learning the game, not to have such impact in areas widely considered end game by many.

I :fap: :fap: :fap: when I play....

I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but in the real world (and EVE) you don't ignore intel because it wasn't "earned". You know someone is in local, you do not do anything in system. Simple as that. Or as was brought up above, you organize pvp and try to bait. But you don't ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.

Edit: If your intention was to support or suggest something, you might want to make it clear. I'm not sure what you would prefer to have happen.

Well put- this is another example of tools needed, If you read a few earlier post there were several suggestions for intelligence tools that required some effort.
The most supported idea was to make local like many other chant channels where only those who spoke up would be visible. for intel and auto d-scan that ran every 10 to 30 seconds would show pilots in system but not show location or ship types, a more active scan would be needed. Please expand on your ideas and give your thoughts on what intel tools would be best for the game., keep in mind we still want roamers to have a reasonable chance to find acquire and engage targets before they could escape, while at the same time giving the local guy a reasonable chance of escape should he be alert.

soooooo...because someone is cloaked, and you can't attack them...they are taking away "your space" ? because you have to flee if he/she/it calls on his/her/its friends when you go after them or near them? did i understand that correctly?

i can understand the frustration of someone just sitting there and exploiting something, but isn't that what you do too? you exploit weaknesses of other players, you blow up their ship and take all their things.

please do not complain about not getting your way with people.

So what?