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NJEchoAlpha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2011-09-09 23:33:58 UTC
A++++ would read again.
Adjorr
A-side Enterprise Inc.
#42 - 2011-09-09 23:51:41 UTC
CSPA service charge

go to mail right click the options at top left corenr (4 little lines) and under CSPA service charge enter 100,000,000,000,000

anyoen who is not blue listed to you now requires to pay this much isk to concord to mail your palyer or start a conversation with you.

shoudl deter just about anyone i would think XD
Skex Relbore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2011-09-10 00:04:53 UTC
AnzacPaul wrote:
I think your going a bit overboard here, your trying to block your son from playing Eve, because of 1 person?

A) Block the character from all your accounts, and your sons
B) Start new characters, so the person doesn't know who you are
C) Make a post in Crime and Punishment forum, and get someone to annoy his corp for a bit.

Really mate, you are uber paranoid over some e-nerds rage tears.



^^^this^^^

This is a game of people who like delivering a little "frontier justice" as it were.
People who get butthurt to the point of making RL threats of chasing people from game to game are particularly juicy targets since their rage tends to be of epic proportions.

If the OP ain't trollin'
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#44 - 2011-09-10 00:23:45 UTC
Skex Relbore wrote:
AnzacPaul wrote:
I think your going a bit overboard here, your trying to block your son from playing Eve, because of 1 person?

A) Block the character from all your accounts, and your sons
B) Start new characters, so the person doesn't know who you are
C) Make a post in Crime and Punishment forum, and get someone to annoy his corp for a bit.

Really mate, you are uber paranoid over some e-nerds rage tears.



^^^this^^^

This is a game of people who like delivering a little "frontier justice" as it were.
People who get butthurt to the point of making RL threats of chasing people from game to game are particularly juicy targets since their rage tends to be of epic proportions.

If the OP ain't trollin'

The OP isn't trolling. I did not think of offering some annoyance for him in C&P.
I am going to put myself way out here on this reply...
I am gay, and because of how things are in the US in regard to homosexuals with children; I tend to be overprotective of him.
Am I overreacting a bit?... probably. It is seriously creepy when someone is willing to jump from game to game to "hunt you down" and your son reads a threatening email about someone wanting to kill you.
One of the reason's I let him play when I came back is because of the intensity of the game and it has actually helped him learn there are real consequences for choices; both positive and negative. I am sitting here with my finger over "biomass" for the last character, but this is something that he and I worked together on ... that doesn't happen often (that he is willing to be participative in a "shared" anything).
I think what I am probably most upset about is that CCP won't even give the guy a warning.
Vak'ran
TUIG Inc.
#45 - 2011-09-10 00:28:29 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
I did petition it.


Ask to escalate to senior GM, mail ccp directly, send letter. Forums will NOT help you, forums are for players.

Also, you smell of troll.

Vak'Ran is your local unofficial non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forums, offering advise and corrections of dubious quality since 2008.

Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#46 - 2011-09-10 00:38:12 UTC
Vak'ran wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
I did petition it.


Ask to escalate to senior GM, mail ccp directly, send letter. Forums will NOT help you, forums are for players.

Also, you smell of troll.

I know I smell of troll. Honestly, if I were trolling, I would not be posting under this toon.
I believe it was escalated... I had one GM then another GM and I (GM Arcade) got into a bit of an argument about killing the accounts immediately. I then spam "harassed" the petition. (Part of the reason for this post was to apologize to him for my horrible behavior.)
I could ask for an escalation I suppose. I would do that in the petition?
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#47 - 2011-09-10 00:46:52 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
I am sitting here with my finger over "biomass" for the last character, but this is something that he and I worked together on ... that doesn't happen often (that he is willing to be participative in a "shared" anything).
I think what I am probably most upset about is that CCP won't even give the guy a warning.



Priorities. Get some.

Dum Spiro Spero

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#48 - 2011-09-10 00:47:23 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Skex Relbore wrote:
AnzacPaul wrote:
I think your going a bit overboard here, your trying to block your son from playing Eve, because of 1 person?

A) Block the character from all your accounts, and your sons
B) Start new characters, so the person doesn't know who you are
C) Make a post in Crime and Punishment forum, and get someone to annoy his corp for a bit.

Really mate, you are uber paranoid over some e-nerds rage tears.



^^^this^^^

This is a game of people who like delivering a little "frontier justice" as it were.
People who get butthurt to the point of making RL threats of chasing people from game to game are particularly juicy targets since their rage tends to be of epic proportions.

If the OP ain't trollin'

The OP isn't trolling. I did not think of offering some annoyance for him in C&P.
I am going to put myself way out here on this reply...
I am gay, and because of how things are in the US in regard to homosexuals with children; I tend to be overprotective of him.
Am I overreacting a bit?... probably. It is seriously creepy when someone is willing to jump from game to game to "hunt you down" and your son reads a threatening email about someone wanting to kill you.
One of the reason's I let him play when I came back is because of the intensity of the game and it has actually helped him learn there are real consequences for choices; both positive and negative. I am sitting here with my finger over "biomass" for the last character, but this is something that he and I worked together on ... that doesn't happen often (that he is willing to be participative in a "shared" anything).
I think what I am probably most upset about is that CCP won't even give the guy a warning.


yeah and Im a ******* blind, deaf, albino lesbian eskimo with bad skin and 5 crack babies.

Pure BS
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#49 - 2011-09-10 00:48:57 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
Skex Relbore wrote:
AnzacPaul wrote:
I think your going a bit overboard here, your trying to block your son from playing Eve, because of 1 person?

A) Block the character from all your accounts, and your sons
B) Start new characters, so the person doesn't know who you are
C) Make a post in Crime and Punishment forum, and get someone to annoy his corp for a bit.

Really mate, you are uber paranoid over some e-nerds rage tears.



^^^this^^^

This is a game of people who like delivering a little "frontier justice" as it were.
People who get butthurt to the point of making RL threats of chasing people from game to game are particularly juicy targets since their rage tends to be of epic proportions.

If the OP ain't trollin'

The OP isn't trolling. I did not think of offering some annoyance for him in C&P.
I am going to put myself way out here on this reply...
I am gay, and because of how things are in the US in regard to homosexuals with children; I tend to be overprotective of him.
Am I overreacting a bit?... probably. It is seriously creepy when someone is willing to jump from game to game to "hunt you down" and your son reads a threatening email about someone wanting to kill you.
One of the reason's I let him play when I came back is because of the intensity of the game and it has actually helped him learn there are real consequences for choices; both positive and negative. I am sitting here with my finger over "biomass" for the last character, but this is something that he and I worked together on ... that doesn't happen often (that he is willing to be participative in a "shared" anything).
I think what I am probably most upset about is that CCP won't even give the guy a warning.


yeah and Im a ******* blind, deaf, albino lesbian eskimo with bad skin and 5 crack babies.

Pure BS

Would you like the proof?
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#50 - 2011-09-10 00:54:54 UTC
KaarBaak wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
I am sitting here with my finger over "biomass" for the last character, but this is something that he and I worked together on ... that doesn't happen often (that he is willing to be participative in a "shared" anything).
I think what I am probably most upset about is that CCP won't even give the guy a warning.



Priorities. Get some.


When something becomes important to him; it becomes important to me. I am guessing you don't have children, or one that has serious social connection issues. So yeah, it bothers me that something that I got him to connect with me on gets destroyed. IF you would like you can work him and beg him to simply talk to you... then have something that he "gets" and is willing to participate in a cooperative way taken away... Yeah that bothers me a bit!
Dex Ironmind
#51 - 2011-09-10 00:59:50 UTC
Your not going to get any good answer from some of these guys.

Hit that bio mass button and make some new characters. The guy who is harassing you will not find you. Then you can continue to play Eve with your kid if you like, particularly since you think the activity is doing him some good. Done deal.

Whatever you do, don't feed the "real" trolls around here! They are rampant! Roll

Dex was here. Cool
Vin Hellsing
#52 - 2011-09-10 01:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Vin Hellsing
Here's the reality, folks. If he's goign to be this persistent for this long, I don't think it's a troll.

That said, if you people had a special-needs kid, you'd understand where the OP is coming from.

Word to the unwise: If you can't empathize, shut up, stick your head up your arse, and waddle around like a nice little duck for Elmer Fudd.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#53 - 2011-09-10 01:03:53 UTC
I sense someone is not in control of their kid.


This is so easy to solve, I'm not going to be trolled.


(Hint: window or sledge hammer )

Now somewhere out there is a kid who does what he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants and how dangerous is he going to be to someone else someday?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#54 - 2011-09-10 01:16:39 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I sense someone is not in control of their kid.


Its not like that Herzog. He will have to live in a supervised environment his entire life. Do you sit with your children 24/7? I have taken the advice of everyone here and am going to approach CCP about alternatives I didn't think of.
I am not trolling anyone. I sincerely apologize to anyone that feels I am doing that.
I am very grateful for the advice and am working on resolving the matter in a more positive way than my initial reaction (yes reaction, not response... I should have thought before I jumped off a bridge).
For all of you who have given me a lot of options and ideas to resolve the issue, THANK YOU!!
For all those that I ave in some odd way offended with this post, I apologize; it was not my intention.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2011-09-10 01:46:30 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Fel, that is not what I am saying. Also, until you have dealt with an autistic child you have no idea what it is like. IF he wants to so do something he is going to do it.
As far as blocking the site from the router... that is a good idea and I may do that. I am concerned that he will just grab another wireless signal from his laptop and access one of the accounts.
Thank you all for the ideas. The help is much appreciated.


correct me if im wrong but autism is something something kid has issues communicating and being social

so how is him not listening to you anything other then the kid needs his ass kicked and or show him who is boss and take all this stuff and send it to me?
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2011-09-10 01:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon Azrakel
I will bite...

1. Set email to an email your son has no access to from a computer he has no access to (and is not related to any other email). Recover password will not help him.
2. Change password online from that other computer.
3.a. Control your son, dammit. Seriously, if he pursues this after being told explicitly not to, some form of discipline should occur. Though at this point, I cannot see how his "amazing wizardlike computer skillz" would help him access.
3.b. (Alternative to 3.a.) Let him deal with it, regardless of his condition, coddling will hurt him in the long run.

Note: Do not expect sympathy from us on how you, your son, or anyone is treated ingame as long as RL threats stay out it. This is EVE.

EDIT: Supervised environment? That sounds like keeping him off of EVE would be rather easy (seriously, see EVE up, flip switch on computer)
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#57 - 2011-09-10 01:59:40 UTC
Demon Azrakel wrote:
I will bite...

1. Set email to an email your son has no access to from a computer he has no access to (and is not related to any other email). Recover password will not help him.
2. Change password online from that other computer.
3.a. Control your son, dammit. Seriously, if he pursues this after being told explicitly not to, some form of discipline should occur. Though at this point, I cannot see how his "amazing wizardlike computer skillz" would help him access.
3.b. (Alternative to 3.a.) Let him deal with it, regardless of his condition, coddling will hurt him in the long run.

Note: Do not expect sympathy from us on how you, your son, or anyone is treated ingame as long as RL threats stay out it. This is EVE.

EDIT: Supervised environment? That sounds like keeping him off of EVE would be rather easy (seriously, see EVE up, flip switch on computer)

Thank you, I have done most of that. Its the real life issue of this guy hopping from game to game to "hunt me down" and the way my son perceives (these were the exact words in the eve mail he read) "so I can F***ING KILL YOU".
My "knee jerk" reaction was to get pissed and freak out. (Typical parental reaction when their child is affected negatively) One of the reasons I let him play EVE is the "real" factor. He actually started to understand the gravity of choices through the consequences (both positive and negative) of them.
I added to the petition and asked CCP about some options that would not destroy months of work that he and I had together (something that very rarely happens with an autistic kid).
I could have handled this much differently. I owe many of you a great deal of gratitude for giving me perspective.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#58 - 2011-09-10 02:03:06 UTC
I'm going to bite on this.

1) Autistic or not, your son needs to learn to ignore the blustering of idiots. He's going to have to endure quite a bit of it in his life, more than most of us because of his condition. You should really be trying to help him learn to deal with this in an adult way, not trying to shelter him from it. Kids grow up and we need to let them.

I have two young sons. My oldest is very bright, and also socially...awkward. He's probably not on the autistic spectrum but he does make you wonder sometimes. I say that so you understand that I'm not just talking out of the wrong orifice here.

2) If you want to continue playing Eve without the harassment of Captain Nerdrage, you have some options:
--Sell your toons and purchase new ones of similar skill sets.
--Biomass your toons and start over
--Massive CSPA charges

3) No matter how clever a kid is, there are ways to keep them from getting past security measures. Changing passwords from a friend's computer or one at work would be the simplest way. I used to work IT for a school district and a high school FULL of teenagers weren't able to compromise our security.

--Change the password. He could still "brute force" it, but that could take a long time and CCP surely has measures to detect such attempts.
--Biomass all the characters so he doesn't have anything to play.
--Revoke his computer privileges if he plays Eve at all.

Remember: You're the parent. Do him a favor and DO NOT make excuses for his behavior. The rest of the world won't.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#59 - 2011-09-10 02:15:03 UTC
Floppy, you are right. Again, this post has given me a great deal of perspective and I am very grateful to you all for it. Many of you all have been great at helping me "out of my box".
I have no excuse other than he is my kid and I don't want him hurt; right or wrong it is just how it is.
I am working on resolving the situation in a better way than my initial reactions were.
I medically retired a little more than a year ago so there is no "work", but I am going to go to a friends house and change the passwords and emails (until I get a resolution from CCP) in addition to the things I have already done from suggestions on this post.
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2011-09-10 02:17:22 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Demon Azrakel wrote:
I will bite...

1. Set email to an email your son has no access to from a computer he has no access to (and is not related to any other email). Recover password will not help him.
2. Change password online from that other computer.
3.a. Control your son, dammit. Seriously, if he pursues this after being told explicitly not to, some form of discipline should occur. Though at this point, I cannot see how his "amazing wizardlike computer skillz" would help him access.
3.b. (Alternative to 3.a.) Let him deal with it, regardless of his condition, coddling will hurt him in the long run.

Note: Do not expect sympathy from us on how you, your son, or anyone is treated ingame as long as RL threats stay out it. This is EVE.

EDIT: Supervised environment? That sounds like keeping him off of EVE would be rather easy (seriously, see EVE up, flip switch on computer)


Thank you, I have done most of that. Its the real life issue of this guy hopping from game to game to "hunt me down" and the way my son perceives (these were the exact words in the eve mail he read) "so I can F***ING KILL YOU".
My "knee jerk" reaction was to get pissed and freak out. (Typical parental reaction when their child is affected negatively) One of the reasons I let him play EVE is the "real" factor. He actually started to understand the gravity of choices through the consequences (both positive and negative) of them.
I added to the petition and asked CCP about some options that would not destroy months of work that he and I had together (something that very rarely happens with an autistic kid).
I could have handled this much differently. I owe many of you a great deal of gratitude for giving me perspective.


If someone ever tells me they will come from game to game, I say let them try. If I was worried, though, I would use a different username (Well, ingame name) and they would never find me unless I said,"Wait, I remember you, you were planning on making my gaming experience a living hell, so here I am." Also, the games in which you can repeatedly mess with people and hound them other than EVE are few and far between, so that part is kinda a non-issue.

Also, RL and "in another game" are separate in most of our minds. In other words, it may have been a "non-EVE" threat, but it was not a "RL" threat.

Personally, I would have rather had this angry guy be angry at Paul Clavet or any other proper "greifer". Hell, even I, along with what may very well be a majority of the players in the game, would enjoy the attention this other player is sending your son's way. I would certainly engage in some light smacktalk and throw out a few "internet spaceships is srs bsns" comments, but the time when that would have worked is past for you.