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Here is math in 3 decimals which corresponds to the actual in game values:

Maximum Skills, Orca
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization (2%)
T1 Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement (4.5%)
T2 Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement (5%)


with T1 gang links:

Range Link Bonus = 0.045 * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.10) * (1 + 5 * 0.03) * (1 + 0.50) = 0.5821875

Maximum Laser Range = 15 km * (1 + 0.5821875) = 23.732 km



with T2 gang links:

Range Link Bonus = 0.05 * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.10) * (1 + 5 * 0.03) * (1 + 0.50) = 0.646875

Maximum Laser Range = 15 km * (1 + 0.646875) = 24.703 km

I would like to see activated Gang Links apply their bonuses only on the grid of the buffing Ship, as long as some gang member is in that system (self buff even when no other member is on grid)

Carefully worded, normal gang bonuses are good as they are, and it would be sad to loose fitting variations on some self boosting "solo" BC/CS fits.

I would much more appreciate it to fly even a combat irrelevant full boosting CS right in the fight and maybe die, then hide my ass and miss all the explosions.

ssshhhhhhh

Gang link bonuses with a range, maybe with decreased effect as range gets out past optimal would be nice but they might introduce too much lag into large fleet fights.

Basically, let a non-specialized ship only give full boosts out to 30km with falloff to 60km while a level V skilled command ship would have an optimal of 100km (with falloff out to 200km). Maybe with some base level of boosts that you would get anywhere in the system (25% effective?).

Plus modules/rigs that let you extend your falloff or optimal (just like various e-war and logistics).

Gee, thanks Zaraki....

This is our more normal fit:
[Archon, Two step's Archon]
Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Capital Energy Transfer Array I
Capital Coaxial Regenerative Projector
Capital Coaxial Regenerative Projector
Capital Coaxial Regenerative Projector
Triage Module I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


(though usually with 2x CCC II's in the rig slot)

You do understand that T2 shares the same leadership requirements as the Mindlink right? There is nothing new to train for for these links and will only need the T2 BPCs to get.

Ok heres some simple numbers for you, using a no-bonus ship, no mind-link, and max Warfare Link Specialist+ Siege Warfare Specialist (say nighthawk) with the shield harmonizing link. With the 2.0% mindlink, it gets a 15% bonus. With a 2.5% mindlink it gets a 18.75% bonus, and with 2.25% it'd get a 16.875% bonus. Without the mindlink you can already see the 2.5% implant running away.

Now, throw in the Mindlink and a Warfare Link Tengu. WIth 2.0% you get 28.125%. With 2.5% you get 35.15%. WIth 2.25% you would get 31.64%, right in the middle ground. The same applies to the armor warfare links on a legion, and thats a pretty huge difference.

I'm going to break down how this affects damage very simply. Saying you are getting hit from a certain damage source for 100 dmg with this 28.125% resistance. Consequently, you would take 71.875 damage. Now switch that to the T2 Ganglink with 35.15% resistance and you will take 64.85 damage. That is a 9.77% reduction over the current T1 Ganglink. That is pretty significant, and counting in the other ganglinks as well, that is also an additional 9.77% reduction in cycle time and cap usage. Consider how this affects logistics ships: not only are they getting an additional 11% reps because of reduced cycle time over the T1 variant ganglinks (meta4 armor reps: 3.59 secs vs. 3.25), they are also getting UP TO 11% stronger reps because of the higher resistances.

And as far as it making overtanked T3s even more overtanked: because of stacking penalties,this bonus will be first or 2nd added in because of its amount (because of resistance specific hardeners or CN Invuls). Max compensation puts a imperial navy EANM at 28.125% (coincidence?) and a T2 EANM at 25%. Since your second resistance gives you a stacking penalty of 87%, you will still gain about 8.5% reduction in damage with the T2 Ganglink vs. the T1. So assuming that you are using an Imp Navy EANM AND and additional resistance mod, you would gain 30.58% from the ganglink and 16.03% from the ENAM, vs 24.47% and 16.03% otherwise. Not counting that highest mod, thats a total 42% dmg reduction vs. a 36.5% dmg reduction. This is basicly showing that even if they are overtanked they are gaining significant damage reduction bonuses.

This same effect can be seen on Tengus fitting T2 dmg rigs. If you stuff 4 BCUs in the lows and fit a T1 dmg rig, you gain 6 DPS, whereas the T2 gives you 34 DPS. This is because the 15% from the T2 rig is being counted FIRST now, whereas the 10% from the T1 matches the 10% from the BCU, only giving 10.5% of that 10% (1.05% dmg). This same principle applies to armor like stated above, with the T2 ganglink bonuses acting the same way.

And 3% is just plain silly. In a Legion, thats 3*5*1.25*1.5*1.5=42.1875% ganglink effects. Thats better than the best officer EANM.

We're stuck with this one till the next round of changes me thinks.

Yeah, only useful thing about the T2 Triage is the 75 stront per cycle instead of 125..

And Two Step, Im assuming you are using strong mindflood/exile if the situation turns dire?

The point being that when you get the T2 ganglink requirements, all you need is cybernetics 5 to get 50% more effectiveness from the mindlink; there is already more than enough incentive to train those skills.

Ganglinks already make a big enough difference as is. If you make them any stronger, you are making them mandatory.

The current T2 Ganglink for shield resists compared to the T1 is simular to the gap between invulnerability field IIs and Caldari Navy Invuls. Upgrading from T1 to T2 ganglinks is replacing that invul II worth of resists with a CN invul.

The decreased rep cycle+ additional resistance benefit gives up to a 21% tanking benefit for just UPGRADING FROM THE T1. In the end, the T2 Ganglink gives an additional 54% repping power through cycle reduction time alone vs. the current 39% max.

There is a tipping point where ganglinks turn from being something nice to have to being required to be competitive. Combine that with the change in boosters that is comming, and the newer guys/smaller fleets have even a bigger disadvantage.

From here on out I'm going to assume that you are trolling me.

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