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Building a computer for EVE - Need Advice
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Harris Girvan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-12-06 10:44:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Harris Girvan
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.
Cavalira
Habemus
#2 - 2013-12-06 10:49:21 UTC
Ugh. Is it really that hard to browse hardware stores online?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-12-06 10:58:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Harris Girvan wrote:
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.


I built my PC specifically to run EVE as best as possible. It runs lots of other stuff great as well, and best part? It cost me less than a grand.

Hope this helps.

For the record, you might find cheaper or better alternatives to what's in that list, and you might find that some of that stuff just isn't available. The case + PSU for example, you probably won't find.

Also, I'm not recommending any tools, because I recommend you don't try putting it together yourself unless you already know what you're doing, ie. you've taken a workshop, have a friend help and teach you, or something. Otherwise, get the shop you buy from to put it together for you. This will probably cost extra.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-12-06 10:59:45 UTC
Cavalira wrote:
Ugh. Is it really that hard to browse hardware stores online?


Is it really that hard to point him in the right direction instead of deriding him?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Dextrome Thorphan
#5 - 2013-12-06 11:03:34 UTC
Harris Girvan wrote:
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.


Required tools:

  • screwdriver
  • brain
  • google (optional)
Harris Girvan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-06 11:07:41 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Harris Girvan wrote:
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.


I built my PC specifically to run EVE as best as possible. It runs lots of other stuff great as well, and best part? It cost me less than a grand.

Hope this helps.

For the record, you might find cheaper or better alternatives to what's in that list, and you might find that some of that stuff just isn't available. The case + PSU for example, you probably won't find.


Thanks for the the post I really appreciate it. Seen on your setup your using a i3 processor how is that working for you? What kind of frames you holding in fleet pew?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-06 11:12:37 UTC
Harris Girvan wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Harris Girvan wrote:
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.


I built my PC specifically to run EVE as best as possible. It runs lots of other stuff great as well, and best part? It cost me less than a grand.

Hope this helps.

For the record, you might find cheaper or better alternatives to what's in that list, and you might find that some of that stuff just isn't available. The case + PSU for example, you probably won't find.


Thanks for the the post I really appreciate it. Seen on your setup your using a i3 processor how is that working for you? What kind of frames you holding in fleet pew?


Re-read my post, I edited it with some extra info on the bottom.

I'm get 60 fps just fine, even when I'm recording with fraps. An i3 hyperthreaded is sufficient for EVE because it never uses more than two cores at a time anyway. The performance limiters will be your RAM and GPU. You'll notice I spent the most on the GPU, and even that could be better.

This rig is not what you would call a high-end rig, it's more of a budget mid-end rig. It is sufficient for full 1080p gaming for most games, and I run EVE with full settings at 60fps just fine, but as soon as you start trying to run too much, ie multiboxing EVE (say more than 3 clients), it will start to struggle.

I've done a few upgrades since I did the build in that list, the next one up will be a custom CPU fan (using the original ****** intel one atm, it's bad, real bad), and I have LOTS of room for upgrades with that build, so it's a starting point rather than diving straight into the best possible.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#8 - 2013-12-06 11:15:48 UTC
Harris Girvan wrote:
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.


Go to www.overclockers.co.uk and buy one of their gaming PCs. Buy two TFTs because multi-screen Eve is the best Eve.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#9 - 2013-12-06 12:52:46 UTC
OP, you may find this site helpful.

generally speaking, i'd aim for a core i5 cpu or a comparable amd, a ssd drive (they're cheap now) and a mid-range nvidia card.

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2013-12-06 12:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: tiberiusric
A few simple pointers to buying a PC for eve

CPU - Intel i5 at least
RAM 8GB at least 16GB pref
Gfx card - DDR5 RAM if you want serious high fps capability probably need dual cards
SSD hard drive (install eve on it if poss)
1TB secondary hard drive
a Decent motherboard
a gaming mouse

everything else is periphery

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit
DB Tank
Worcester Marauders
#11 - 2013-12-06 13:18:39 UTC
Dextrome Thorphan wrote:
Harris Girvan wrote:
I am going to be building my own computer soon and I am gearing it more or less towards EVE. I am looking for multiple budget suggestions ranging from anywhere up to about a thousand pounds. Here is a baseline of what I am looking for.

- Maintains very high FPS in fleet combat
- Able to max out the game graphics running several clients
- Able to handle background tasks running alongside the game

I appreciate your help on this and if someone could also suggest the tools for putting the computer together that would also be appreciated and note that I am based in the United Kingdom.


Required tools:

  • screwdriver
  • brain
  • google (optional)


If you have nothing worth while to post, just dont post and carry on with your business..seesh
Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#12 - 2013-12-06 13:19:46 UTC
Cavalira wrote:
Ugh. Is it really that hard to browse hardware stores online?


Hardware stores are trying to sell you stuff, which is why browsing them is not what this man needs.
Mark Androcius
#13 - 2013-12-06 13:22:02 UTC
3 high definition beamers, giant white wall.
big fat EVGA SR motherboard with 3 Nvidia cards of whatever model you like.
please stick with ssd's.



O and uhm, a captain Picard seat of course.

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Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#14 - 2013-12-06 13:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Davon Mandra'thin
If your looking to spend up-to $1000, here is what I recommend;

Intel Core i7-4770K - $300
nVidia GeForce GTX 670 - $270
8GB RAM - $100

Don't get an SSD. Get a standard 1TB HDD (or two) and then get an SSD cache drive, which will speed up their working speed to the same speed (humanly indistinguishable amount slower) as if you were using a 1TB SSD but for a tiny fraction of the price.

Plus case, DVD Drive, USB etc comes out at roughly $1000. And you won't need to upgrade it for a while. That will keep you going for a great deal more than usual 5 year life of a decent computer. In pounds, this is obviously significantly less. Works out at about £650 for a really really good gaming computer. The rest you can spend on many many monitors to make running multiple accounts easier.

A great resource for choosing what CPU and GPU to buy is http://www.cpubenchmark.net
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-12-06 13:35:43 UTC
Dude, for the record, I've seen EVE run on SSD, and HDD, and an SSD makes very little difference for much greater cost. I have a 1TB HDD I got for $67. Same price for an SSD would barely buy 10GB. Your CPU is your call, but an i3 runs it fine. The biggest problem with the i3 that I've noticed is temperature.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mark Androcius
#16 - 2013-12-06 13:40:22 UTC
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
If your looking to spend up-to $1000, here is what I recommend;

Intel Core i7-4770K - $300
nVidia GeForce GTX 670 - $270
8GB RAM - $100

Don't get an SSD. Get a standard 1TB HDD (or two) and then get an SSD cache drive, which will speed up their working speed to the same speed (humanly indistinguishable amount slower) as if you were using a 1TB SSD but for a tiny fraction of the price.

Plus case, DVD Drive, USB etc comes out at roughly $1000. And you won't need to upgrade it for a while. That will keep you going for a great deal more than usual 5 year life of a decent computer. In pounds, this is obviously significantly less. Works out at about £650 for a really really good gaming computer. The rest you can spend on many many monitors to make running multiple accounts easier.

A great resource for choosing what CPU and GPU to buy is http://www.cpubenchmark.net



Dude, i never thought of that option... thanks man :)

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-12-06 13:51:29 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dude, for the record, I've seen EVE run on SSD, and HDD, and an SSD makes very little difference for much greater cost. I have a 1TB HDD I got for $67. Same price for an SSD would barely buy 10GB. Your CPU is your call, but an i3 runs it fine. The biggest problem with the i3 that I've noticed is temperature.


You didnt expect him to buy a 1TB SSD did you lol. 256GB one will suffice. Heck even 128GB.

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit
Mark Androcius
#18 - 2013-12-06 14:14:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dude, for the record, I've seen EVE run on SSD, and HDD, and an SSD makes very little difference for much greater cost. I have a 1TB HDD I got for $67. Same price for an SSD would barely buy 10GB. Your CPU is your call, but an i3 runs it fine. The biggest problem with the i3 that I've noticed is temperature.



A high volume fuel-pump in an otherwise stock mini cooper ( the old one ), is not gonna make the mini much faster, this is correct.

If your hard-disk can read 500mb per sec ( just an example ), but the rest of your computer can't process that much, it's not gonna mean much ( yes, most computers can easily handle processing 500mb per sec, but EVE is not the only program running, so the total amount of internal "bandwidth" used, will always be reduced ).



Disclaimer: numbers posted in this post, are not directly related to actual facts, but are here merely for explanatory purposes.

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Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-12-06 15:54:39 UTC
I use

I5
8gb ram
1 Terra HDD
560 TI

g15 keyboard and g9 mouse with 2 * 22 inch wide screens. Plus 2 other pc's

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-06 18:08:46 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
"SSD doesn't make a difference" Bullshit, its one of the largest performance increases you can pack into a modern computer. This is only noticeable on loading or computer boot up, but has no effect once the data is already in memory. A cacheing drive would provide no performance increase when accessing a program that is not already in the cache, and ssd will.

For eve I'm not sure that the ssd is entirely worth it. There isn't a huge amount of data to load, and most of the loading screens are querying the server, so you're better off focusing on ram and video card power for additional monitors. I can't even remember if I have eve on my ssd or hdd actually.

Anyways, decide how many accounts you want to run, and look for a card that has a video out per account. If you go over four, you'll need a second card. Either that, or be a boss and run dual 7970's with a 6 or 8 monitor setup with eve in borderless window mode across all of them. Blink

Quote:
CPU - Intel i5 at least
RAM 8GB at least 16GB pref
Gfx card - DDR5 RAM if you want serious high fps capability probably need dual cards
SSD hard drive (install eve on it if poss)
1TB secondary hard drive
a Decent motherboard
a gaming mouse

everything else is periphery


This is decent advice. 8 or preferably 16 gb for multiple clients. SSD should be 128 or 256 gMost video cards are overkill in power for eve, just make sure you have enough monitor outs, and that's really about it.

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