EVE General Discussion

I have to say that you have done better work. As one of the game's better trolls, at least give a full quote before you digress.

POS and POCOS are structures erected in space. How is either like a space potato?

You seem to have the bar set pretty low as to when a game is "broken".

Smohq,


I think high security space has requirements that pre date many aspects of this game.
I also think the "standings grind" fit in that scope.

Jump clones, agent access, taxes, and a few other things are a part of that system. When something comes along to change that I think it breaks many aspects of the game. Is that a low bar?

I am not tolally sure I follow your comments Captain or that you follow this thread, but thanks

Why aren't the Corps who own the POCO's charged a small fee for each? It's a really simple Isk-sink and it encourages a lot more interaction with the users and owners... I paid some local friendly’s to shoot down three for my two-man alt corp so I could charge zero to blues in our pocket. Is that the direction CCP wanted us to take?

No, he's entirely accurate.
That's exactly what you wrote, so it's not a misquote, and the reason and logic is there to demonstrate that your comparison is deeply flawed. If you set up meaningless and arbitrary characteristics and then say that two things are the same because they match each other on one or two of those points, then you can do the same for anything in the game.

With that kind of reasoning, it's trivial to set up a comparison where POCOs are more like Domis than like POSes. After all, they're both semi-AFK space entities used to directly generate ISK (rather than a building tool to produce something that might in turn generate ISK); they're both meant to be fairly disposable: cheap, easy to come by, easy to lose; and neither of them are there to extend the functionality of stations.

If you want to make claims based on belonging to the class of entities that are anchored in space, then you should look at the range of entities that are anchored in space including things like Outposts, GSCs, bubbles, and now MTUs, depots, MCIs, MSUs… none of which require taxes or standings or fuel. So POCOs are entirely normal; POSes are not a natural point of comparison since they break the norms.

So you don't want people to respond to your OP?

…but nothing has changed any of that. It's all still there. Nothing is broken.

The point you keep missing is that these things aren't there just to be there — they're there to serve a purpose. The standings grind is used to deny access to certain products and services, but since POCOs are supposed to be universally available in large numbers to everyone who wants a piece of the pie, restricting access to them would be at cross-purposes. Taxes are there to reduce the influx of ISK, but POCOs don't spawn any and are rather intended to make more ISK move around, so having to pay taxes for one would once again defeat that purpose. Fuel requirements (rare as they are) are used to create a labour cost and a barrier to expansion — own too many installations and you can't maintain them all — but the purpose of POCOs is to have them spread far and wide across the entire cluster so having such a requirement would … [drum rolll] … defeat their purpose.

At no point does any of these designs for POCOs break anything. Quite the opposite: applying those mechanics to POCOs would break things, since they would no longer function as intended.

But they only affect a small portion of players ...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Oh wait you're serious.

Hey guys I have zero knowledge of the mechanic in question but I believe its broken because...things...

*logic enters*

Hey guys I still have zero knowledge but....but....


Face it, tippia just handed you your arse on a plate.

Renfield? Is that you?