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Advanced Industrial Ships, are just stupid. *o yea Gallante OP haulers*

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Abisha Baboli
#21 - 2013-12-05 22:36:31 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
Didn't blockade runners JUST get buffed? They have a pretty high warp speed now. Or rather, the high warp speed that they already had is now relevant.


my mammoth only got nerfed, it used to be 5.5 Au now only 4.25 Au


A mammoth is a T1 Hauler.

Blockade runners went from ~35s to do a 20AU jump to ~25s.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65418/1/numbers_table.png

And you can actually boost these speeds now, too.


yea at the cost of what 200 mil total?.
might as well slam a other 200 mil against it and fly a freighter.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-12-05 22:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Hops
By this logic might as well not buy a freighter or a hauler at all.

Just use Red Frog.

They only charge 500k per jump with a small flat pickup fee attached. Unless you plan on doing something like 1000 jumps in a Freighter (god that would take a LONG LONG time) - you're better off just hiring help.

(Also, Freighters are like a billion ISK, not 400m - making the breakeven by using a freighter service more like 2,000 jumps....)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#23 - 2013-12-05 22:41:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Abisha Baboli wrote:
yea at the cost of what 200 mil total?.

Aha, so that's how your dealer manages to sell his freighters for 150M — he's overcharging you massively on the transports.

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might as well slam a other 200 mil against it and fly a freighter.
Freighters come with cloaks and frigate-like agility and warp speed now? On top of their 1.5M m³ holds and 150M ISK price tags? Daym!
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#24 - 2013-12-05 22:42:03 UTC
The fact that the OP doesn't know the difference between a Freighter and an Industrial tells me everything I need to know about this topic.
Abisha Baboli
#25 - 2013-12-05 22:45:47 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
The fact that the OP doesn't know the difference between a Freighter and an Industrial tells me everything I need to know about this topic.



lets see, they both have cargo space..... and fly.
nope no difference.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-12-05 22:47:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Hops
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
The fact that the OP doesn't know the difference between a Freighter and an Industrial tells me everything I need to know about this topic.



lets see, they both have cargo space..... and fly.
nope no difference.


yeah, it's not like one of those categories can fit modules, and even a covert ops cloak Roll

while the other category can fit umm....Nothing.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#27 - 2013-12-05 22:48:34 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
The fact that the OP doesn't know the difference between a Freighter and an Industrial tells me everything I need to know about this topic.



lets see, they both have cargo space..... and fly.
nope no difference.

By that metric a noobship is OP, since it has cargo space, flies and is above all free.

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Abisha Baboli
#28 - 2013-12-05 22:49:27 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
The fact that the OP doesn't know the difference between a Freighter and an Industrial tells me everything I need to know about this topic.



lets see, they both have cargo space..... and fly.
nope no difference.


yeah, it's not like one of those categories can fit modules, and even a covert ops cloak Roll

while the other category can fit umm....Nothing.


really Cloak really handy in High sec. really............
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2013-12-05 22:52:10 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
really Cloak really handy in High sec. really............
Very much so, yes.
Abisha Baboli
#30 - 2013-12-05 22:53:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
yea at the cost of what 200 mil total?.

Aha, so that's how your dealer manages to sell his freighters for 150M — he's overcharging you massively on the transports.

Quote:
might as well slam a other 200 mil against it and fly a freighter.
Freighters come with cloaks and frigate-like agility and warp speed now? On top of their 1.5M m³ holds and 150M ISK price tags? Daym!


just the basic price in Amarr, or other trade hubs.
overcharged or not, that what they sell for..
Abisha Baboli
#31 - 2013-12-05 22:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Abisha Baboli
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
really Cloak really handy in High sec. really............
Very much so, yes.


I just a guy that need tons of m3, transported from A to B. without fancy cloaks or whatever.
at the cheapest and fastest possible way.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#32 - 2013-12-05 22:57:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
really Cloak really handy in High sec. really............
Very much so, yes.


I just a guy that need tons of m3, transported from A to B. without fancy cloaks or whatever.
at the cheapest posable way.

Red Frog or PushX, both cheaper than buying your own freighter, and you get your money regardless of whether or not it gets delivered, if you set the collateral right.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2013-12-05 22:59:17 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
overcharged or not, that what they sell for..

Amarr you say? Ok.

Prorator — 86M.
Crane — 137M.
Viator — 135M.
Prowler — 140M (or just be smart and get it for 84M).

So if you're paying 200M, you're being massively overcharged.

Quote:
I just a guy that need tons of m3, transported from A to B. without fancy cloaks or whatever.
at the cheapest and fastest possible way.
So there are a ton of viable ships, and a couple of them (unsurprisingly) fit your particular needs in this case, whereas the others will fit your needs in other cases.
Abisha Baboli
#34 - 2013-12-05 23:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Abisha Baboli
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
overcharged or not, that what they sell for..

Amarr you say? Ok.

Prorator — 86M.
Crane — 137M.
Viator — 135M.
Prowler — 140M (or just be smart and get it for 84M).

So if you're paying 200M, you're being massively overcharged.

Quote:
I just a guy that need tons of m3, transported from A to B. without fancy cloaks or whatever.
at the cheapest and fastest possible way.
So there are a ton of viable ships, and a couple of them (unsurprisingly) fit your particular needs in this case, whereas the others will fit your needs in other cases.


try now a Bustard.

still i appropriate you're help.
and before you ask, i only have Caldari Industrial V.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2013-12-05 23:16:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Bustard in Jita 135 Million, it's between 120 and 130 elsewhere.

BTW the Bustard is a DST, not a BR.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2013-12-05 23:17:02 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
try now a Bustard.
…which isn't a blockade runner and which is overpriced in Amarr by 20M (you get it for 130:ish in Gallente or Caldari space).
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#37 - 2013-12-05 23:18:42 UTC
Someone forgot to flush or what is this thread doing here?

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Laetitia Nzero
Southern Cross Silver Shields
Flying Dangerous
#38 - 2013-12-05 23:20:14 UTC
OP HighSec only player. Just doesn't understand :-(
Bring you huge capacity, cheap freighter into syndicate or any other nullsec, let's see what happens Question
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-12-05 23:27:45 UTC
The ret4rdation is strong with this one.

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#40 - 2013-12-05 23:28:36 UTC
Am I too late for the 175M freighters? I'll take 5.

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