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Advanced Industrial Ships, are just stupid. *o yea Gallante OP haulers*

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Abisha Baboli
#1 - 2013-12-05 21:58:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Abisha Baboli
face it, those ships need a Overhaul.
first of all, the costs.
Skillbook=30 to 35 Mil.
Ship 150 Mil

damn, man can buy a Freighter for that money that have 50 times the amount of cargo space.
also it's frustrated to see, gallante have superior Haulers Kryos or Miasmos anyone?, those 2 have 9 damn times
the hauling Capability of ANY other Hauler ingame, not to talk about those 10% per level while the others only got 5%

Give the Other races, something to Like faster warp, super agility whatever or do Dev's only fly Gallante??.

away, back to topic.
Tech II Haulers, most be made easier to learn, cheaper to produce, hell trow a couple of 1000'sm3 to the hull, walla problems solved.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#2 - 2013-12-05 22:01:47 UTC
wut?

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Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2013-12-05 22:04:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
QuestionWhat?QuestionAlso

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-12-05 22:05:50 UTC
It's almost like they have some other advantages instead of just having increased cargo space. Straight
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-12-05 22:07:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
It's almost like they have some other advantages instead of just having increased cargo space. Straight

This.

Also, OP, if your freighters cost 150M, I'm willing to take one off your hands for 175M (especially if it's one of those 1.5M m³ ones) — that's a 17% profit for you!
Oh, and if you have any walla problems, turning off station sounds usually helps.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-12-05 22:08:52 UTC
No.

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Abisha Baboli
#7 - 2013-12-05 22:10:58 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
It's almost like they have some other advantages instead of just having increased cargo space. Straight


Kryos or Miasmos
are Super Massive BlackHole Overpowered compare to the others.
a Miasmos have almost the same cargo capability as a Orca.

fully skills, Miamos can carry 67.000m3 where is you'r Orca now??
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2013-12-05 22:16:18 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
fully skills, Miamos can carry 67.000m3 where is you'r Orca now??

Fully skilled, without even fitting any modules, an Orca can carry 527,500m³.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2013-12-05 22:16:43 UTC
I too would like a freighter for 150 million isk, please provide details of the seller who is knocking them out at such a heavily discounted price.

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Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2013-12-05 22:18:21 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
fully skills, Miamos can carry 67.000m3 where is you'r Orca now??

Fully skilled, without even fitting any modules, an Orca can carry 527,500m³.


Not to mention EHP

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Abisha Baboli
#11 - 2013-12-05 22:21:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
fully skills, Miamos can carry 67.000m3 where is you'r Orca now??

Fully skilled, without even fitting any modules, an Orca can carry 527,500m³.


really man, if you know nothing about a subject don't post.
maintenance bay is not even worthy to type
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-12-05 22:22:39 UTC
Didn't blockade runners JUST get buffed? They have a pretty high warp speed now. Or rather, the high warp speed that they already had is now relevant.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-05 22:26:17 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
fully skills, Miamos can carry 67.000m3 where is you'r Orca now??

Fully skilled, without even fitting any modules, an Orca can carry 527,500m³.


really man, if you know nothing about a subject don't post.
maintenance bay is not even worthy to type

Even without that there is still 120km3 if I understand correctly before skills between the other holds. Also 70,000m3 of that can hold things other than ore, vs the 550m3 of the Miasmos.
Abisha Baboli
#14 - 2013-12-05 22:27:10 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Didn't blockade runners JUST get buffed? They have a pretty high warp speed now. Or rather, the high warp speed that they already had is now relevant.


my mammoth only got nerfed, it used to be 5.5 Au now only 4.25 Au
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2013-12-05 22:27:31 UTC
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Abisha Baboli wrote:
fully skills, Miamos can carry 67.000m3 where is you'r Orca now??

Fully skilled, without even fitting any modules, an Orca can carry 527,500m³.


really man, if you know nothing about a subject don't post.
maintenance bay is not even worthy to type

You should take your own advice, and stop posting.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#16 - 2013-12-05 22:28:48 UTC
I heard you can train Gallente on every race now. In fact, you only need Gallente Industrial 1.

Also, you missed the rebalance about 3 months ago. You should have spoke up then. They actually listened to our comments to add special bays to the T1 industrials.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2013-12-05 22:30:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Abisha Baboli wrote:
really man, if you know nothing about a subject don't post.
maintenance bay is not even worthy to type

Ok. Let's cut out all the special holds.

Orca: 77,500 m³
Miasmos: 550 m³

Or was it just the ship hold that was unfair? Ok.
Orca: 127,500m³
Miasmos: 63,550m³

So, you were saying…?
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-12-05 22:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Hops
Abisha Baboli wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
Didn't blockade runners JUST get buffed? They have a pretty high warp speed now. Or rather, the high warp speed that they already had is now relevant.


my mammoth only got nerfed, it used to be 5.5 Au now only 4.25 Au


A mammoth is a T1 Hauler.

Blockade runners went from ~35s to do a 20AU jump to ~25s.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65418/1/numbers_table.png

And you can actually boost these speeds now, too.
Abisha Baboli
#19 - 2013-12-05 22:34:11 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
I heard you can train Gallente on every race now. In fact, you only need Gallente Industrial 1.

Also, you missed the rebalance about 3 months ago. You should have spoke up then. They actually listened to our comments to add special bays to the T1 industrials.


yea, can learn it in like 5 mins. but god man seen how freaking UGLY they are?.
this is just pure puching player base into a direction, thought this was a Sandbox? or do it become a cheap themepark MMO.
only have to look at a color=BiS?
I want my Mammoth to have something special like Kryos or Miasmos.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2013-12-05 22:35:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
The Mammoth does have something special over all the other races T1 industrials, bits that fall off.

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