EVE General Discussion

Bring a friend in a Ship with 90% web bonus for solution?

Interceptor balance means people are able to undock and do something when everyone around them
IS STUCK In a bubble or gate camp.

Perhaps you missed this expansions undertones of rapid movement being returned to the game?

Interceptors still suck at locking passed 28km (certainly can't compete with a maulus is there). They have pitiful dps compared to a Merlin and they tank like a heron.

Now the recon buff would be lovely if :

- rook and falcon gets ECM range reverted (better than blackbird)
- curse and pilgrim get equal bonus to Nuet range and tank
- Lachesis and arazu have bigger drone bays
- huggin and rapier 90% web back

to highlight my entire rambling post, more changes are coming and until all ships have been balanced it's too soon to whine !

then by your logic of reasoning the dooms day affect should have never been removed from titans as well right?

I have been tiring to understand the changes CCP has been making for the last 3 Patchovers. They never seem to care about anything Indy and I dough they ever will. If anything, their silence on the matter has spoken volumes about their intentions and direction.

I tried endlessly to get someone to help me understand why you would take hidden mining belts that could be scanned out if they wanted to, and make them a regular anomaly. CCP’s response was deafeningly quiet. And in fact they seemed resounding to just let the PVPers rail about the “care bears” and acted like Indy players deserved no explanation at all.
If CCP has no interest in discussing anything that doesn’t kill other ships, then what is the point of asking them questions about such? But I bet if I tried to introduce a way to break a booster toon out of a tower shields they would be all over that.

Simply put CCP has shown nothing but contempt for the game for the last 3 patches. Their only concern is how to unbalance the game in the PVPers favor. Again, if I am missing something I invite any of the DEV’s to please correct me. But I don’t see the revamping of industrial ships to make them less useful is of any value to the Indy players as a whole, and the other changes have all been to slide the scale to the shooters advantage.

ok then give me one example of any time in actual RW combat that even a gang of interceptor craft has had the ability to attack with total impunity? I cant tell you right now that it has never happened. and even with intel and scouts in place. when a ship allows for a toon to log in undock warp to a gate jump through and tackle a ship before that ship can make it to warp makes intel and scouts completely usless.

Ok I was told that this discussion needed to be here so here it goes.

While I understand the revamp making ships allign and warp per their size was reasonable, at what price did empowering the interceptors to out match everything in the game do? Admitadly as an Indy toon I understand that I may be missing something here, but we used to see roving gangs that had multiple ship types and actuallywhe slightly balanced to the home team, made for good null sec fights. Now with ccp essentially buffing interceptors so much you just see mass amounts of interceptors killing everything from the loan ratter to fleets of battle cruisers and battleships.

Now last time I plaster this the pvpers jumped on me about my recent freighter loss, but if you actually look at it the intercepted buff , while playing a part in it was insignificant in the grand scheme. So before the rangers get ahold and get this thread shut down, I ask a simple question. What was the point of "balancing" the ships of eve if you balanced one class so far ahead that it kills all other aspects of the game.

I would really like to hear ccp's take on this before the moderators just shut this thread down aswell.

But CCP claims they were rebalancing the interceptors, but the Blockade runners, a ship specifically designed to (by its own description) get through gate camps only gets a plus 1 to warp strength while the new interceptors are totally immune. It would seem to me that the ship actually built to get through warp bubbles should be nullified and sure the interceptors should get a bonus to warp strength, but not nullification.

I submit that this is an intentional part of the ccp plan to kill industry in eve because of one simple fact. When was the last time you saw a fleet of blockade runners flying around tiring to kill anyone?

[quote=Bowbndr]
Rattng in 0.0 is dead m8. The current system allows for vast swaths of space to be owned yet unused. No one lives in their space. And if you do- you are subject to unkillable gangs of inties all day long. Do like everyone else and make your isk in highsec where its safe from immortal interceptors

Curious... what exactly is the counter to a 30km point 4-5 km/s 5k ehp interceptor (e.g. the crow)?

Smartbombs have a range of 5km, so no go.
Typical heavy neuts can't hit out that far.
Generally, nothing outruns them.
They can trivially outrun/kill drones.
Most weapons either cant hit that far out, or if they can, they won't be able to track the inty.


You see groups of 3-5 (or more) interceptors quite often in null these days. Is there a counter? From where I'm standing, it looks like they can avoid all player interaction that would be unfavorable to them.

I've tried to brainstorm an effective counter over the past few days, one that doesn't rely on the interceptor being a moron, with little success. Thoughts?

Hyena?