Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Again, the webber strenght can only go from 0 to 100%.

If your webber have 1%, it will slow a 100m/s ship down 1 m/s to 99 m/s. If a 100% webber that slows your ship down to 0 m/s, it means that the 100% webber is 99% more powerfull than the 1% webber.

As the web strenght number increases, then the % stronger number go lower. A 90% webber is 80% more powerfull than a 50% webber. A 90% webber is 200% more powerfull than a 30% webber as 30 m/s lower on a 100 m/s ship +200% = 90 that will be the m/s loss on the 90% webber.

EDIT: And no, you do this totally wrong.

If your ship is doing 757 m/s with an ab. It will do 75.7 m/s after a 90% web. It will do 302,8 m/s after one 60% web. It does 121,12 m/s after 2x 60% webs. And it does 48,448 m/s after 3x 60% webs. Basicly, you takes 757 m/s and minus it with 60% that will be 302,8 m/s. After that, you takes 302,8 m/s and minus it with another 60% and so on as the one webber slows you 60% down and then the next one will slow you another 60% down, so 302.8 m/s minus 60% again is 121,12 m/s. That's how the web strenght works.

So as i said earlier, it would be a little over 2 times stronger if we calculate on how many extra webbers you need. But like i have said, that's not how you calculate on how more powerfull a 90% web is over a 60% web.

So, you think webs have stacking penalty?.

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First, subtracting a percentage from a number is hilarious.

Second, I think you should check what modules get stacking penalties. Maybe eve uni has a class for you.

Edit: Here, I found their page. Maybe you should consider joining them for a while. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Stacking_penalties

The modules that have stacking penalties does have that written in their description. The webbers doesn't.

And it doesn't matter how many webbers you have fitted, for each webber you fit, it will show -60% speed on each normal webber you have fitted. If they had been stacking penaltied, you would see lower and lower % for each web the more webs you would fit.

Stasis webifier effects do indeed have a stacking penalty. It's actually a good point that we should add a mention of that fact to their descriptions.

Indeed. Also probing rigs are penalized, tracking disruptors are not penalized vs tracking enhancers, despite the description (in fact all penalty vs bonus stacking claims that the penalties should be themselves penalized vs a bonus).

As overpowered a 28 km FN webber on a Bhaalgorn is (this is before any fleet bonuses)?

It doubles the web range. How is that NOT poverpowered?

And no, i wont leave this topic as 90% web effect isn't any more overpowered than 100% longer web range is on a Bhaalgorn.

Stasis webifier effects do indeed have a stacking penalty. It's actually a good point that we should add a mention of that fact to their descriptions.

NightmareX ... sorry but what kind of knowledge you have to judge what is overpowered and what is not.

As you managed to discover after 9 years that webs are stacking penalized hence why web on serpentis ship > 2 x normal webs.

Sorry to burst your bubble of knowledge but barely more than year old player like me knows this fact for long time..

Why i'm saying this ? Because you basically don't know how powerful and op bonus Vindis have.

Now don't get me wrong ... but leave balance of ships to those that know how they work.
I know why Vindi is strong - but i don't want to alter it. Just give same power to other pirate battleships and we are set. If not then i'm afraid Vindi must be cut. Share power among pirate factions ... there is no logical or role playing justification for stronger hulls on serpentis side.



And yeah i remember when you were asking me if i fly Vindis often and you know what you are talking about ... yeah maybe not flying painted Megas as often, as you but in the end i know how they work lolz .... i have Ashimmus and cruors and that web effect is not mystery for me.