Player Features and Ideas Discussion

From someone who has been following the RLML thread quite closely for the last couple weeks: I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Rise to get around to responding about the changes that he's already pushed through.

They are updated, he edited the first post

I find it hilarious that my original design is less powerful than this one ended up being

That said, I think I like this one better

Well now you get to look forward to the Cald/Min BS being a shield repairer \o/

Ok, this has gone through a few iterations and turned in to a treatise:

Idea 1:
So my first idea to differentiate it was just: Give it a jump drive.
(apologies if this has already been suggested, but Search didn't show anything)

It'd be more in keeping with the SOE ethos than combat bonuses. It'd give them a way to get around safely without just giving them a covops cloak. Its low mass already makes it attractive to wormholers, a jump drive would make it attractive to null and low sec residents.

Make it able to jump to covert cynos so that it can participate with blops fleets, but don't let it detect covert cynos in system with them. Obviously don't let it fit covert jump portals.

Skill requirement would have to include JDO1, necessitating Warp Drive Op 5, but this wouldn't be a major problem even for those not intending to use the jump drive since WDO isn't a high rank skill.

Pros:
* Unique feature for null and low sec users that they can jump their ship around without needing a carrier.

Cons:
* Mostly useless to high sec users.
* Might make it a bit too safe for ratting in.

Idea 2:
After that I was lamenting that loss of the RR battleship role, which would also be unique, and I was wondering how to balance a battleship to be competitive as a pve boat as well as having a jump drive without making it OP as hell for hot drops, then a thought occurred to me: why not borrow some ideas from T3s, and have an interchangable subsystem:

Jump Reconfiguration:
Grants the Nestor a jump drive.
Increases mass, increasing align time so it can't jump in and warp on a dime.
100mb drone bandwidth.

Combat Reconfiguration:
Gives remote repair bonus
Gives laser optimal bonus
125mb drone bandwidth

Covert Reconfiguration?:
(Does NOT allow the use of covops cloaks)
Increases speed while cloaked by 400%
100mb drone bandwidth.
Grants probe and hacking bonuses.

This would also solve the problem of skill requirements, since the Jump Reconfiguration subsystem only could require jump skills, meaning if you didn't have any use for the jump drive you wouldn't need to train them.


And yes, I realise it's an unrealistic proposal. I can dream.

you assume its a solo battleship in a fleet but you would always have more than one battleship thus you would have cap tansfers going on like real logi ships do (guardians/Basi's) and cap boosters so you would have no trouble keeping 3 reps going

i see the entitled crowd wanting a new ship especially tailored to their own desires are still out in force.
Why on earth you all want this ship to try and fill roles other ships already do better is beyond me.
It has a ton of bonuses allowing it to be used in many ways but carefully designed so that trying to fit for all of them at once would be a mess.
It will be expensive and have niche uses. Some people will find clever ways of using it as the combination of bonuses is pretty new. This to me is the essence of eve. Getting a new toy which will have potentially novel uses is not a reason to qq everywhere and to copy paste other peoples ideas as if that were worth a new post.
Once again i leave Features and ideas feeling the need to spam the dislike button on 95% of the posts and sad because there is no such button.

I really have a hard time following on the big issue the hacking/scanning boni seem to create.
It's like asking for coffee, getting free cake, complaining that you don't like the cake, and demanding something else. It just doesn't work that way.
You ordered coffee, you're given *this* cake for free. Deal with it.

PS: I believe it should be EITHER rr-amount or rr-range. Both is a bit much for a T1-ship.

I don't think this is an entirely fair comment. There is a large and established player base who have long memories of broken ships and mechanics, and a company in CCP who was unwilling to fix them. People left the game in droves, hating the game that they had loved for so long.

We are very keen not to see a return to this sad state of affairs, and we are happy that Rise and Fozzie are keen to hear us.

The consensus seems to be that the ship in its proposed form does not add anything to the game. Rise and Fozzie are just two people, who recognise that the wisdom of crowds is to be respected.

So we give our views, hoping that we can help the devs to an epiphany that will allow them to release ships that enhance the game that we all enjoy so much.

But they don't always "hear" us, rapids are a VERY good sign hat they choose when to listen and when to pretty much tell us to F off, don't forget that