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Jaroslav Unwanted

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#21 - 2011-11-21 15:58:30 UTC

Illwill Bill wrote:

Dubbelpost för the vinst.

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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Illwill Bill wrote:

Flak guns. Preferably with AoE damage. >:)

That's basically smartbombs, and as it happens, they already provide a measure of protection against missiles… Blink

Yep i would rather see FoF and defenders merged into one type... So it either shoot missile or closest ship/structure whatever.

Leave my Falcon murdering friends alone! Sad

well then leave FoF Mark 1 as normal FoF and FoF mark 2 as defender @ FoF obviously more pricy

Illwill Bill

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#22 - 2011-11-21 16:06:00 UTC

Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

Illwill Bill wrote:

Dubbelpost för the vinst.

Edit:

Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Illwill Bill wrote:

Flak guns. Preferably with AoE damage. >:)

That's basically smartbombs, and as it happens, they already provide a measure of protection against missiles… Blink

Yep i would rather see FoF and defenders merged into one type... So it either shoot missile or closest ship/structure whatever.

Leave my Falcon murdering friends alone! Sad

well then leave FoF Mark 1 as normal FoF and FoF mark 2 as defender @ FoF obviously more pricy

Fair enough.

Boma Bull Corp 86
Gazmin VanBurin Boma Bull Corp Likes received: 86	#23 - 2011-11-21 16:12:37 UTC would be interesting if they could also be used to protect vs bombs aswell, might make them more used.

The Greater Goon 2,023
Morganta The Greater Goon Likes received: 2,023	#24 - 2011-11-21 16:29:30 UTC if you don't use them, and nobody else uses them then why should anyone care? really, wtf makes you think removing an "unused" item is a priority? how exactly would this help anything? somehow I think this is a QQ thread in disguise someone spank your drones with defenders or something?

Spheroidal Projections 1,003
Cynter DeVries Spheroidal Projections Likes received: 1,003	#25 - 2011-11-21 17:49:22 UTC Seems nearly every reply is going wide of the mark. The OP was complaining about mission NPCs using defender missiles and reducing ISK/hour. Based on that argument, I'd say no, don't remove them. As pointed out, they're useful on interceptors. Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead.

Ranger 1

Ranger Corp

Vae. Victis.

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#26 - 2011-11-21 17:53:51 UTC

Tippia wrote:

Defenders need to be made separate from missile launchers. As long as the compete for space with (far) more useful and applicable things like delivering DPS, they remain pointless and far too situational even if there was some minute point to them.

They need to be turned into modslot modules, which can either be targeted against a particular ship you want to defend against, or made to defend a particular target, and they need to be auto-fire once turned on. Essentially, they should be tracking disruptors for missiles — a module that negates part of the opponent's ability to do damage with the affected weapon system.

This.

Possible variations on this would be:

For the defender "module" to be able to be fitted in a utility high slot.

Instead of defending just you, or as you suggest all missile fire from or at a targeted vessel... the defenders could defend you and anyone on your watch list. This would depend on how much information and what type is sent to you from watch list members of course, so it may not be doable.

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Opertone

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#27 - 2011-11-21 17:56:37 UTC

make SIEGE launcher launch 10 defenders at once. Hold 200 defenders. Viable.

Make heavy launcher launch 5 defenders at once. Hold 100 defenders.

If you can't allow previous, make defenders - flare decoy - missiles may go for the decoy rather than ship. As in heat seaking missiles vs aircraft on Earth.

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really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Emiko Luan

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

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#28 - 2011-11-22 01:55:30 UTC

I'd be very happy if there was a change to defenders to allow shooting any unfriendly missile, rather than just ones targeted on you. Then let logistics ships mount them as another damage mitigation ability (while buffing their ability to stop missiles)

Defenders should be as good as turret destabilisers. Maybe even changing them to midslot...

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Sigma Special Tactics Group 8,697
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group Likes received: 8,697	#29 - 2011-11-22 02:14:07 UTC 1 Show us where the defenders touched your missiles. I wish we could use T2 defender missiles. I gots the skills. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Elite War Squad 49
THXBYE Elite War Squad Likes received: 49	#30 - 2011-11-22 02:56:12 UTC and why? Universal PvP System Mode: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=38634 In Game Laws, Fines and Taxes: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=36124 Stations and NPC Services Costs: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=39038