Ships & Modules

I see loads of people saying that you need to be using 100k EHPs for tech 3 and BS to be able to do anything. Yet for me I can't seem to be able to do that.

On my tengu with subsystems at 3 with 2 invulnerable fields, 1 EM field, 1 medium shield extender 2 and a damage control 2 I can only seem to get about 40k EHPs. Yet I've seen very similar fittings that claim they can give EHP's of 70k.

So what am I doing wrong? Or can you only really achieve a 100k EHP by having all skills at 5?

Well obviously having skills at lvl 5 helps a lot (particularly defensive subsystems). I would STRONGLY recommend to get defensive and offensive subsystems to 5 if you plan on using a strategic cruiser. Anyway here's a 105k EHP Tengu that I threw together in pyfa in 5 minutes.

Disclaimer- I really don't know how to fly or fit Tengus

[Tengu, 100k EHP]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Target Painter II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Salvager II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier

As for the people who say that you need 100k EHP to do anything, they are wrong. True, in a large fleet fight you want as much EHP buffer as possible: battleships and T3s being able to easily reach 100k. In other situations (most PvE and solo PvP) an active tank will be more effective: fit for different situations differently.

In the case of your fit. Ditch the medium shield extender for a large one. Medium shield extenders are usually only seen on frigates.

Start by replacing the medium extender with couple large ones, put some extender rigs and you should get much closer to 100k

Try armour plates 1600 mm armour plates

Slaves/crystals and ogb alts can also make a significant contribution to ehp. However I won't suggest it is worth the cost of second accounts and bling heads without knowing exactly what you are looking to use them for. Investing in hg crystals will set you back quite a ways.

It's also worth noting that the 100k EHP ship with EFT's universal damage profile and the 100k EHP ship with EVE's Fitting window's pessimistic "100% worst" damage profile are two different things - If your resists on your primary tanking layer are more or less even the difference shouldn't be vast but with some ships, particularly those with very, very high resists (I'm reminded in particular of a Loki fit with an Explosive "hole" in shield of 85% resist) the small variations in resist represent significant changes (going from 85% to 86% represents a 7% reduction in incoming damage after all).

Hmm...this guy again...now he can fly a Tengu, yet has not learned enough about the game to actually fit it properly...hmm.

OP make sure to fit that ship with some officer mods please, I want to make it worth while for the hitmen when they whack you.

Along with your medium shield extender to should add some 50mm armor plates and cargo hold optimization rigs... Don't forget to skill up capital industrial ships too .

/sarcasm

No luck, tried fitting that up with everything apart from the rigs and I don't have enough power core to run both the afterburner and the large extender am also running into tight cpu as well.

I like it!