Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Now this is something that we can work with that is still within the relm of a battleship. I do have a few concerns though. Why did you remove the remote repair amount bonus that is already a part of the hull, my thinking is that the fewer the changes that we ask for the more likely that CCP will implement them. Along those lines I also don't agree with the slot shift and turret reduction as these factors are determined more by the factions the ship represents than a one off layout. As to Energy transfer Array range bonus I don't think that would be the best use of a bonus since it falls slightly outside of SoE's 'keep people alive' theme and would be better served as a RR range bonus. Your idea for a bonus to armor repair drones is pretty interesting and useful since this ship doesn't have a great capacitor to reliably run it's energy turrets, RR, local reppers, prop mod, and any other modules that use cap. However, I would caution against it because this bonus does not exist at the moment and would require more work to implement (at least I think it would).

Now, I am an exploration pilot that makes a home in nice little C3 so I may be putting a little bias into this but since those fields are what the Nestor is designed for I would assume the affects would be minimal. This is what I would look for in the Nestor to follow along with SoE faction abilities and theme.

Nestor

Role Bonuses:
50% bonus to RR amount (both shield and armor if possible)
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
100% bonus to RR range
xxx% cloaked velocity (BlOps have 500% at lvl 4)

Everything else would remain the same, though I would also like to see a jump drive added (whether covert cyno compatible or not) for added maneuverability when roaming null. This will allow the ship to maneuver along side small exploration fleets running combat sigs and coordinate with BlOps gangs without passing through or providing jump portals. However, the addition of a jump drive is difficult to justify due to the lack of precedent and added capability.

Just to be clear, these changes will allow the ship to travel quickly while cloaked with a normal cloak, not a covops. The Role bonuses will lend themselves to a logistics role within a limited range so as to not overshadow T2 Logis. Finally, a jump drive will allow the Nestor to maneuver safely within hostile territory without overshadowing T2 BlOps. All this while remaining within the precedent of SoE ships to date and SoE themes (except perhaps the jump drive) and giving the ship a clear, multifaceted role in line with its pirate status.

If you have any ideas or tweaks remember to post. If we can keep our heads level and arguments constructive with reasons to back them up we can get this ship straightened out in no time.

P.S. Where does the idea of adding a clone vat bay to the Nestor even come from? Not even Capitol ships can equip them (since they are restricted to Supers) so the idea that a mere BS could use one is ridiculous, no matter how you look at it.

EDIT: I forgot about the OneIros' Bonus to RR bot effectiveness.

Here's a Proposal:

Yeah CCP Devs will hate this because it would require a lot of new skills, modules, and modal dialogs.

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Nestor:

8H - 4 turrets / 4 general purpose
4M
6L

125mbit Bandwidth / 625m3 Drone Bay

Amarr Battleship Bonus:
-4% Armor Resistance Per Level

Gallente Battleship Bonus:
-10% Drone Hit Points, Damage Per Level

Black Ops Bonus:
500% increased velocity while using a Standard Cloaking Device
50% Bonus To Optimal Range of Large Energy Turrets per Level
Can Fit Wormhole and Jump Portal Generator
2 Wormhole System Jump Range Per Level
(Same normal jump portal generation statistics of a conventional blackops minus 50% range)

Operation of a Jump Portal or Wormhole Portal Generator in known space results in -50% the available range capability of the portal generation device. So if you have black ops 1, you can only pass through one wormhole.

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New Skills:
Wormhole Portal Generation: 12.5% reduction in fuel usage per level (Required for Wormhole Portal Generator)

Wormhole Aperture Discovery: 20% chance per level to discover a suitable aperture to generate a wormhole with. (Required by Wormhole Portal Generator)

Wormhole Aperture Mapping: Allows the discovery of 1 wormhole aperture link per level (Required to plot routes with multiple systems through WH space, also required by Wormhole Mapping Computer)

Wormhole Aperture Theory: 12.5% per level reduction in special wormhole ghost site jump fuel per activation (Required by Wormhole Aperture Generator - this is like a cynosural field generator. Requires Cynosural Field Theory 5)

New Modules:
Wormhole Portal Generator I

Wormhole Aperture Generator I

Wormhole Mapping Computer I

New Modal Dialog:
Wormhole Mapping Computer - Lists possible routes to a "LINKED" Wormhole Mapping Computer from another player in your fleet


Addendum:
Add SoE ship special ability to fit a Wormhole Aperture Generator I and Wormhole Mapping Computer I

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This is just a rough idea, but will add a HUGE dynamic to wormhole space, and create a multi-facet attraction for both PVE, and PVP players alike. I know this kind of game mechanic would take some effort, it's not just slapping bonuses on a wire mesh w/ textures.

Aerodynamics don't matter in the vacuum of space, but the ship hull design makes absolutely no sense. Someone tried to be a little too creative me thinks. Kind of like the Celestis, just horrible, ugly ship.

To those complaining about the asthetics of the ship:

I would suggest replacing the front ring with a smaller, flatter Astero type ring/wing and move the large complete ring to the rear quarter of the ship.

Still dont the get the idear of this ship.

Covert Frigate and Cruiser - BS should have been a Black Ops

And i know im repeating my self, but i serious think the bonus on this ship is dum

The ship is interesting. But I think ccp need to review the Remote repair module sand their shield coutnerparts. They are too limited in range, up to the point only logistics are consdered to be able to use them effectively.

Would be a good idea to increase the range of those modules (and their repair ammount a bit as well) and nerf the bonus on both t1 and t2 logistic cruisers.

That coudl at least bring back a realistic scenario where RR battleships become relevant again.

My proposal would be 30% extra range, 15% extra repair ammount. And a reduciton on CPU usage on the shield transfer ones)

Someone beat me to it!

http://i.imgur.com/tTJXrN8.jpg

Christ. So because you only release ONE new ship with this expansion, you believe it is ok to overprice it LP wise, to make suckers out the people that want "new new new". I can get other faction battleships in high sec at a much lower LP price, and I see nothing in this one that warrant the extra cost.

Well, high sec gankers will be happy though.

Nestor redesign:

http://i.imgur.com/tTJXrN8.jpg

So if we start with this as the starting point i think what CCP should do is:

1. The ring around the big plain looking bulbous thing on the front should be moved to the joint in the middle of the ship, just in front of the radar system.

2. The plain looking bulbous thing on the front should be shorter, more angular and more detailed.

3. The "covered solar panels" should increase in size to make the ship look wider in the middle.

4. The fins on the back should be removed.

What if there were 2 versions one with the input of Duvolle Laboratories from Gallente that gives the people the Covos ops, remove the turrets and add drones that people want, that doesn't make it op in people's eyes and another version from an Amarr company that makes a version that other people like the Remote repair and Sensor stuff. After all its hybrid why couldn't SoE speak to both sides and come up with different versions?

Plus still like the design of the ship, looks like a classic sci-fi ship