Warfare & Tactics

Good OP;

I was puzzled by that too, the first few times. But it really doesn't happen very often.
By and large the eve FW rules seem to work (as far as getting blasted by your own side goes).

your humble servent
SeaSaw

It's faction warfare, not factional. And there are punishments for attacking friendly militia as have been pointed out already. However I do admire the persistence.

ok, but friend what you call a mechanic i call a design mistake that i pointed out here - SOLELY MY OPINION. and i get flamed for it like crazy and called an idiot. per this design mistake i decided to stop playing - this doesnt affect you in any way. i never encouraged anyone to follow my example. i dont understand the reason of so many insults at my adress. r u happy with the game? play it. im not, so i wont. when you are cancelling a subscription you are asked why. so i gave my feedback.



after this last post i would like to kindly ask the moderator of this forum to lock, delete or archive this thread or do whatever he likes with it. i gave my feedback, i found my answers to the question marks i raised and based on those answers i made my decisions. thank you again for those who answered my questions. i hereby retreat from any further discussions.
ty

So a few things come to mind.

- you probably saw the person's security status... not his faction standing (you can't see the faction standing of other people).
- security status has nothing to do with a person's faction status (for example: I have -9.8 security status but have +5.6 Minmatar standing)

- killing someone in a your militia does incur a hit large to their faction standing.
- unless you go below a certain level (below 0.05 faction standing) you will not be kicked out of a militia (which means that some people CAN get away with it).
- if someone is in a FW corporation then their own personal faction standings is averaged with the faction standings of everyone else in the corp. It is entirely possible to have -10 with a the faction but be in their militia if the rest of the corp can compensate.

- there is an old mechanic where corporation standings are not affected by new members for about 7 days. Some "professional AWOXers" take advantage of this and bounce from militia to militia using "shell corps" with a single alt with good standings.

- There are more than a few "bittervet" FW corps that won't have a problem with shooting you if you get in their way. People in my alliance have been known to hunt down scrubs who shot them due to bad overview settings (because many in my alliance have -5.0 or lower security status).

glad we are in amarr militia and no one here hunts down noobs for free kills , o -wait

Make timers tick down at an exponentially increasing rate.

fixes everything.

Then try to fix the rest of low sec.

What's wrong with lowsec?

Particularly, what's wrong with lowsec that players can't fix themselves?

Hey, OP, this game has virtually no interaction rules. Do what you want, take the consequences, and move on. Your options are to learn from it and move on, learn from it and get revenge, go solo and understand that success is the best revenge (awoxers tend to be completely failures in real life, so the revenge is sweetest), quit FW, or quit EveO.

As for the pissing contest between Nexx and what's-his-name, I suspect QCATS don't like all the recent goonies love on the forums so had to start their own. Hope fun was had by all.

W&T = the new CAOD

The Gallente are currently being blobbed (well we've always had a numbers disadvantage v Caldari just moreso now) with every bandwagoner farming alt and bitter vet returnee to calmil that saw the higher tier lp accumulation opportunity when the Test horde joined Calmil. That is why we've lost so much space.

But this has happened before, Evoke, and likely will happen again. It seems every booted-from-sov-nullsec-and-trying-to-get-back alliance in the game has the same lack of imagination, or attachment to Navy Ravens, or unintelligently values the perpetual numbers advantage Calmil retains, and thus they all gravitate toward joining Calmil. Maybe someday one of them will break the mold and join Galmil. Or Gallente Navy ships will become all the rage (it could happen, someday, maybe ). Watch out Caldari. If it somehow someday happens you are totally screwed.

OP, as for awoxing, it happens for various reasons. The common scenarios are the following:

Player A is offensive plexing, player B is a farmer alt. Player B upon warping in burns off and cloaks waiting to uncloak when timer about to finish, or just hangs out without asking player A whether he minds. Player A gets pissed off about the leeching of his LP. Player A destroys player B's ship.

Player B has just joined the militia. But no downtime has occurred yet. So he will appear as a neutral on the overview. Player A sees him in space or at a plex, and either does not have a faction tab on overview, or doesn't check it. He attacks player B assuming him to be a threat.

And then there's the one that usually happens to me. Player B is a noob to fw. Player B has never had to examine or understand his overview settings for whatever reason. Player B has pirate sec status with priority over faction status on his overview. He sees Player A on his overview due to sec status and not off his overview due to same faction. Player B attacks player A getting the jump on him. Player A is totally pissed at the noobs playing this game and goes into rage. Player A has player B effectively banned from his area of space due to corp standings settings. Player A after cooling down remembers the poor noob and thinks maybe he should change the settings. But then more pressing matters always come up and player B just stays negative standing to corp essentially in perpetuity.

And there are other scenarios.

OP, just understand that like any human created quasi-legal system it is imperfect and leads to mistakes, or it is exploitable by those who want to pad their killboard with easy kills or whatever. The vast majority of the time the system sorta works. Maybe it will become better (if CCP decides to reexamine things such as the interface for overview settings or flagging neutrals that enter your plex with an engagement timer, etc). So OP, don't quit, don't return to WOW. Have fun, because it is most of the time fun. And remember that any ship you jump into in this game can be destroyed in any number of re tarded ways, some of which will be your own re tardedness.

OP and gallente should quit all the bellyachin and get in your ships and start fighting or go do the truffle shuffle and cry me a river