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Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#61 - 2013-12-04 15:34:37 UTC
Anslo wrote:
AFK? Theme park?? Bot??? The hell man, these people on crash or something?


I swear, I never sold any of our products to any of these crazies...

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master
Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-12-04 20:29:25 UTC


Odinfar wrote:
As for the scam.... that was more meta than in game. I wanted to show from an outside frame of reference that the capitalist ideology leads some to commit crimes/scams because money is the basis by which we currently measure success and worth. The scam itself was simple: pay this the war ends, pay this next amount and we will return any ships lost during the war. I paid said amounts, then magically Black's connection dropped. She then returned and said she never received the second amount for the ships and moved to try and get the full amount a second time. By this point, I had already proven my point for this level of the meta-experiment so I didn't continue forward. Simple scam really, and likely quite effective (even if you aren't purposely dumping ISK into an experiment for a dissertation that will be written a couple years from now).


Alright, yeah I'd say some capsuleers, probably most would commit crimes/scams (more of scams) to gain more ISK. This isn't anything new though. I'm at a bit of a loss with this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wanted to prove that players would commit scams to increase ISK value, thus proving that most players are driven by ISK/money values by being scammed yourself? You know, I see the genuineness of you what you were trying to do, just was unnecessary and you didn't have to get scammed to make your point. [/quote]

No, this element of the experiment was meant to act as an anecdote to RL. Yeah, I could have avoided the scam, but at the same time my wallet is a good piece of evidence to put forth in regards to the "red button" principle produced by Capitalism. Other than that, I find your points solid and well developed. I'll have to think of a proper rebuttal (if one is needed).
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2013-12-04 23:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Capt Starfox
Sounds good mate. Look forward to hearing from you! If I'm unavailable, which is really likely as we get into December, don't hesitate to talk with another NO Rep. Happy holidays.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#64 - 2013-12-05 00:37:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
delete double.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#65 - 2013-12-05 00:47:29 UTC
Odinfar wrote:
(OOC: This **** is gonna be fun. New Order definitely didn't fail to deliver. They've created content and given me something to test my RL philosophies against. I honestly love you ladies/gents and can't wait to see how far this experiment goes. Gonna make great anecdotal evidence for my dissertation. See you in game, Black.)


What? You actually believe this in RL. It's not just silly 'emergent gameplay'?

You can't be serious, surely? However if you are I would suggest you stop playing Eve. It's not the game for you.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#66 - 2013-12-05 00:59:18 UTC
Odinfar wrote:
In response to the New Order members here. I don't afk mine.


Odinfar wrote:
And I'm all for this. That is why I do AFK mine.


What again?

This thread is gold, but those 2 quotes above can't both be true, unless of course you have multiple personalities, then I can se how this might work.
Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2013-12-05 15:14:51 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Odinfar wrote:
In response to the New Order members here. I don't afk mine.


Odinfar wrote:
And I'm all for this. That is why I do AFK mine.


What again?

This thread is gold, but those 2 quotes above can't both be true, unless of course you have multiple personalities, then I can se how this might work.



Cursed typos making me seem crazy. Lulz... second one should say don't AFK mine.