Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Is there much left of the monument to actually shoot next time?


It's almost like… they're trying to discourage feedback.


I'll read it. How long must you play EVE to earn "bitter vet" status?

I remember when torps had area-of-effect damage. And I remember when regular industrial ships could refine.

Wow... been a long time. hehe

yeah because rushing the rebalance and changing dozens of ships at once with no testing is the key to success

So, they should fix the things that you think are broken and leave the things that you think are balanced alone? seems legit

Yeah because im sure renaming the autocannons took so much time . . . and yes it was annoying to see 800mm repeating artillery and have to just know those are autocannons. It lowers the number of things players have to know instinctively by lowering the stupidity of the naming scheme.

isnt this kinda like telling microsoft to stop producing the xbox because windows is their flagship product? I mean you cannot really be that stupid . . .

Here's an original idea: stop stifling creativity and innovation. Just because youre afraid of change doesnt mean nobody wants it.

They should spend all the time they need to get 0.0 space right. the Sov system should have hundreds and hundreds of dev man hours and thought put into it not 20 like the hacking mini-game

I agree that the nestor could use some work, but I liked the marauder upgrade, especially the MJD idea

Again, they should take exactly as much time as they need to properly rebalance cap ships, we dont need another debacle like dominion

I would add:

- Fix f.u.c.king ECM.

N-Space

Bottle necks… mobile warp bubbles… interdictor warp disruption bubbles… nowhere to live… unable to repackage anything in space.

Bottle necks and bubbles are self-explanatory because people come from high sec would have to successfully bypass them coming out and successfully bypass them going back home. One of the major obstacles is having nowhere to live, no safe harbor, and no opportunity to relax. All of the outposts are controlled by alliances and lock everyone not blue out. Then you have the NPC stations that are extremely few and far between.

Even if you were to put up a moon station (POS), you bring out all your gear in a hauler, but you are unable to repackage anything so it would take 50 runs to get everything back out risking said bottle necks etc. Ore and other valuables take up a lot of space too. Then your POS gets steam rolled into reinforced by the territorial trolls’ titans and hundreds of capitals, you can’t get anything out at all, and then you lose 100s of millions of ISK. Again, on top of that you have the “time” involved. Yes, there are jump freighters and capitals, but many small corporations don’t have access.

One real example… I was in a big alliance with alliance friends. We moved a ton of industrial gear way out to an outpost (our alliance/friends would only jump PvP gear/ships). Within a weak the host alliance changed their mind and told us we all had to move to a different area. So here we go again having to move all our gear that took multiple runs across dangerous space to even get there (boring!). I think it was like 25+ jumps to the new location. It was a pain in the ass. I’ve tried industrial multiple times in null sec, and I haven’t even got literally one zydrine back into high sec to make some profit. I mainly killed NPCs and PvPed anyway, but still the time and costs of the industrial side was ridiculous and not worth it at all. I’ve never seen the “reward” everyone says is so abundant in N-space.

Not to mention the only people I see PvP anywhere are huge blobs. I’ve never had a 1v1 even though I’ve asked and tried multiple times. The best I’ve ever got in my 8-9 years in EvE is a 2v1. I was in a combat ship looking for PvP in low sec at the time.

Black Ops? Jump into Null for NPC hunting or PvP. That is about all the use you will get out of them.

W-Space

Many of the same problems exists that you have in null sec. The two exceptions are bottle necks since wormholes move around, and no capitals in the lower level systems. I had high hopes. The additional obstacle is no advanced warning of anything with no local or tools to scan for hostiles. Yes I know about the directional scanner, but who wants to hit the stupid scan button every 10 seconds for hours. Pain in the ass and boring.

One real example… my small corp and I (US TZ) decided that we would move into W-Space for some fun and exploration. We setup a small POS with corp hanger and a few guns. Nothing big or spectacular, and in no way defensible. It gave us a safe harbor which is all we wanted. We weren’t living there permanently.

So I found a great level 3 system with no one else living there. It was a big system and we were very excited. We had fun for about 2-3 weeks maybe. Out of nowhere a German corp and their friends put the POS into reinforced, and we lost an expensive hauler in the process of trying to get some things out. We would have loved to defend the POS, but we were small and US TZ. The Germans were hours ahead of us and had lots of friends. So we lost a few hundred million ISK. It was a big loss. We didn’t make any profit at all. So what is the point of risking W-Space solo or with a small corp?

Conclusion

Yes… yes… I know all the insults, arguments, and advice. I’m not here to *****, whine, or shed tears. I’d happily shread your ship out from around you, pop your pod, and kick your corpse around along with the others I have in my biomatter storage unit. My point is that for solo and small corporations, L, N, and W space is not worth the time or effort for the so called “rewards” that everyone raves about. That is why vast stretches of space are deserted. There is no point in wasting time and ISK to try to carve out an area that will only be lost anyway. Unless you have the numbers, ISK, and hours to hold on to it for any length of time.

How is CCP going to fix all this?

And... AMG... PvP in null sec... hours and hours of waiting and prep... then its all over in 5 minutes. Boring.

I appreciated everything you're saying about L, N and W space - and I don't disagree. But here's the problem as I see it with expanding space: it's going to be years (no exaggeration) for this to happen, and it sounds like it's going to be a large enough undertaking that only a handful of entities (maybe only one, aka: Goons) will have the collective resources to complete. This really sounds like another elite club like the alliance tournament that will be severely out of reach for the vast majority of us.

Meanwhile, while we're waiting for Seagull's epic version of "lost in space" to come full circle - what's being done to improve PvE content (expanded missions), mining (more interaction) and generally PvP?

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