Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Can't agree. If the same goal can be achieved with ships which cost 3b in total, then using 15b gang is stupid and unpractical. Everything must be economically efficient. Unless you duplicate the isk without limits somehow.

I stealth edited the high res concept art to the OP.
You can find it here: http://bit.ly/1izOFm4

So it's a ridiculous looking ship with ridiculous bonuses... At least you're consistent CCP

Take the fins off the back, widen the fins on the side, move the ring a little closer to the middle. Job done!

Oh I get it... You're Intentionally being an idiot.

What exactly makes you think these 1 bil battleships are unaffordable for pvp when we are throwing away 4.5 bil dreadnoughts and blobbing 100 billion isk titans?

Don't give this ship a ship maintenance bay or a fleet hangar as suggested unless you intend on removing the guns ( people want a mini-carrier and carriers cant use guns. ) Give it a 400% Energy Transfer Array and Remote Armor Repair system range bonus ( that's less then a guardian and more then a logi frig ) allowing it to rep to around 33km and be able to give and receive capacitor. Maybe give it a 55% reduction in Energy Transfer Array costs and Remote Armor Repair Systems ( requires more cap then a guardian. ) Give it a jump drive similar to Black ops ( there is currently no real covert ops logistics ships in eve making black ops fleets kind of a "gank it or die" scenario. ) Amarr Battleship: 4% resistances per level. gallente Battleship 10% drone damage and hitpoints per level. The cloak bonuses black ops receive could also be implemented to keep it in line with its counterparts. Remove the gun bonus entirely. Those stats give you a logistics ship that tanks less then a T3, costs more then a Triage carrier, but allows it ( when in pairs ) to effectively be a black ops logistics boat while adding a small amount of damage.
The 50% amount bonus could be kept, but if it is the high slots should be 6, med slots should be 4, and low slots should be 7 as most armor battleships in eve have 7-8 low slots. With 6 high slots and 1 cloak, you would have 2 cap transfers and 3 50% bonused reps, giving it more repping power then a guardian at 4.5 reps.

The ships looks solid overall, but seriously, consider moving that ring to the back of it, it just looks plain wrong with it in the front and it feels like the ship should be backwards

As you discovered with techfleet, sourcing faction bs hulls can be difficult.

It was retired because it was easily countered.

Simple fact is no matter the cost people can afford it. This is why any balance based upon cost is a terrible way to do things.

TBH, I think that's his point, actually. The problem with techfleet wasn't really that the CFC couldn't afford them. It was that it literally couldn't replace them. Incidentally, the nullsec SoE station is deep in CFC space. :tinfoil:

Actually, the biggest pricing and sourcing problem I can see with these, in a general sense, is that, unlike the regular pirate factions, there aren't SoE combat exploration sites. The price of pirate battleship hulls is actually massively depressed by these sites, since they drop pirate ship BPCs: you can get upwards of 2k ISK/LP out of pirate frigate and cruiser BPCs, but the battleship ones tend to be closer to 1k ISK/LP in price. The Nestor isn't going to have that downward pressure being exerted on it, so its price is actually going to be linked to the prices of the smaller hulls.