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Vindicator vs Marachiel in Caldari Space for L4

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Lirs Corum
Useless Idea
Kybernauts Clade
#1 - 2013-12-03 15:10:44 UTC
As in topic.

Which is better for running missions in caldari space?

Vindi is cooler in my opinion :)

Some fits would be nice.
Lirs Corum
Useless Idea
Kybernauts Clade
#2 - 2013-12-03 16:18:27 UTC
Rly? No advice? What?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-12-03 16:23:52 UTC
Machariel.

I'm not on my computer but from memory

Highs
T2 800mm Autocannons

Mids
2 active hardeners
1 large shield booster
1 shield boost amp
1 100mn AB

Lows
4 gyros
3 tracking enhancers

Rigs
2 CCC
1 rig to increase falloff. Can't remember the name

When I get on my computer I can post my fit
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-12-03 16:29:38 UTC
Lirs Corum wrote:
Rly? No advice? What?


No one likes you! Lol
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-12-04 11:58:49 UTC
Here's what I have. You can replace the 4th RF gyro for T2 and you'll only lose like 10 DPS, Hardeners to choice but I prefer specific ones unless you want to spend the ISK for CN invulns


[Machariel, Missions]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster

800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-12-04 12:03:55 UTC
I don't find the vindi to be a good PvE boat.

Terrible lock range doesn't go well with rails (or gallente space missions that have SDs), and blasters aren't good for PvE.
Its damage type isn't good outside gal/cald space.

The mach does everything on the other hand, and arty fits reduce ammo cost (I assume you use faction/T2 ammo where the costs are worth considering?)

They both seem just as bad against guristas jammers, but the new mobile depots somewhat alleviate that by allowing you to mount ECCM mid-mission
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-12-04 17:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
The Mach is almost certainly better in the hands of a good pilot. Mostly due to its flexible damage types.