EVE General Discussion

Don't forget: we're also going to use the opportunity to nerf Serpentis webs...

My personal favorite suggestion that I've heard of would be to remove jump bridges (but not titan or blops bridges at first), and make a mobile deployable that stabilized wormholes, preventing their collapse due to mass or time limit being reached. (The size limit imposed by the remaining mass when stabilized would still exist.) Maybe make it anchorable only in 0.0 k-space at minimize its disruptiveness to current w-space play, depending on the thoughts of the w-space crowd. Make the BPC drop in ghost sites.

Finding good, stabilizing, camping, and disrupting these route then becomes a thing, and this plays into the exploration theme eve's been pushing, while providing a different, less predictable, more disruptable way to do long-distance logistics. It would of course need to be combined with continued balancing of nullsec industry.

The problem with messing around with "force projection" is that none of the epic newsworthy super-battles that are the literal jewels in EVE's/CCP's crown could have happened without it.

Easy force/logistical projection has some serious bad aspects, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, remember the good aspects of being able to move about New Eden quickly.

See, this is a common fallacy that risk follows NS=WS>>LS>>HS when a simple analysis (check out the two graphs under the table) suggests the risk order is more like LS>>NS=WS>HS.

By your "risk versus reward" mantra, LS residents should be recieving the lion's share of any rewards. After all, it is you that is saying the more dangerous the space, the better the rewards. Security status is, at best, an extremely poor indicator of how dangerous a particular system is and certainly shouldn't be used as the determining factor in reward calculation.

Interestingly, the second graph (ratio of effectively PVE/PVP) shows that HS and NS carebearing to pew pew ratios are about the same. So much for a vibrant and violent null sec LOL.

Wow, what an insane display of putting the cart before the horse. Does that analysis really use number of jumps in it's risk ratio calculation (jumps vs ship kills)? That's crazy for a number of reasons, there is no way to determine original jumps (is it 1000 people jumping once or one guy jumping into a system 1000 times) and so on. Lots of people transit though low sec without actually interacting with low sec.

Beyond that, while low sec is not nearly as coddling as high sec, it's still semi protected space. There is no indication on that page you linked about the effects of gate guns and station guns on pvp. Sorry, null is still the more dangerous space, the only potential npc help you get in null is if the rats your shooting switch targets while you're getting ganked lol.

Not saying low sec isn't dangerous mind you.



And it can be argued that low sec ALREADY has better rewards than null which makes the snark in your post even more amusing. The DED plexes that drop Pithum and Gistum etc A type loot are much more prevelent in low sec than null (6/10s spawn more in low, while they do occur in null 7/10s and up are way more common), ansd that loot is WAY more coveted than even most null se cX-type loot.

And while null sec pirate LP is pound for pound more valuable, you get SO much of noraml Lp from lvl 5s. You can do 400+ mil an hour with a good carrier set up and enough standing to cherry pick missions.

Between 400 mil an hour lvl 5s, 5-600mil faction warfare lvl 4 farming, 150 mil an hour FW button orbitting IN a FRIGATE and potential 1-2bil isk drops from low sec DED plexes (won't even mention the new "damn near officer" belt rats dropping tags now), low sec can't complain about potential rewards, it's already unbalanced with null sec. Low sec is damn near "wormhole good" when it comes to isk from PVE.

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The reason I don't care as much about the low/null imbalance as I do the high/null imbalance is because at least Low Sec pilots EARN their isk by being in constant danger.




You do know that faction warfare button orbitting (for an example) where no npcs are killed won't show up in your stats right? You have such utterly incomplete info (if that is your graphs that you made or is it someone else's) that it isn't even funny.

You really don't want to hear about my low sec follies, unless you want a seriously good and long laugh. Didn't need that carrier anyways.

On a loosely related note I'd like to see Deep Space Transports given more of a role... possibly even as a way to deploy critical combat related structures while a battle is raging (various types of area effect disruption modules, including more powerful one shot cyno and covert cyno jamming structures... possibly other types of disruption structures as well).

That would require them to be rebalanced with an eye towards being extremely tough when receiving remote reps and having excellent mobility in a combat situation (such as the ability to use a Micro Jump Drive around the battlefield to get to critical positions).

Sounds like my 2nd marriage....

Like with POS, CCP will entertain every single idea, except the one's the players want and possibly have had the CSM present several times.

Pre buff it was entirely possible to make sure that 90% of the barges and exhumers were unprofitable to gank, the problem was with the 90% of their owners that couldn't be bothered to do so. The same problem exists today, people would much rather fit for yield than tank. The wet paper bag tank of the mining ships was, and still is entirely down to the people flying them.