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Quitting... The Gambler's Fallacy and Original Sin

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Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-12-04 02:39:52 UTC
I'm done with this game. I've already transferred several billions in assets to another member of BNI who was just about the only tolerable person I've met on this game so we can skip the "can I has your stuffs" replies.

People love to announce they're leaving Eve, and I'm happy to join the club. The skill training queue in this game is about the most foolish implantation I've seen in an MMO. To achieve reasonable revenge against those who repeatedly gank you, you just have to hold off for a year until you have the skills to fly a ship of moderate caliber against those who go after you. I finally realized that waiting a year was not worth it. I don't mind PvP games, I've enjoyed them when they're about skill or done in a balanced environment. Eve provides the opposite of a balanced environment and one gets sick of never being able to punish people who agress you for no reason. I also don't really consider ganking my industrial as I put through low-sec or what not as "PvP" so much as "Pv." I figured no big deal, I would train blockade runner. Then I realized I had to spend a month training that and that's a month I can't dedicate to combat skills or anything else. That's right, I have to give CCP $20 and wait a whole month just to make my character capable of running away.

It's a very creative business model, honestly. You prey simply on the hope that things will get better and one day, two years later, for doing nothing at all but paying CCP $15-$20 a month, you too can be effective in PvP which most companies work to ensure is plausible for players in the first place.

Oh well, I don't really have anything constructive to say. I was playing X3 Albion and I realized I was having fun playing a game... And then I remembered that I used to think playing MMO's was also fun, until I started playing Eve, and then I was just playing because I wanted to make the jerks who make the game so frustrating to play pay. However, after careful consideration, I realized that, not only is it really not worth waiting around for a year for, it's also a huge waste of real life money that I could be spending on MMO's that don't suck by being unwilling to reward active playing of the game.

At least I can take solace in the fact that CCP called you all evil when they named the Eve Gate after, well, Eve. I tend to agree with them - I've never played a game that really brought out the worst in people in a video gaming environment.
Darth Peaches
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-12-04 02:42:08 UTC
Can I have ur stuff?
Jim Era
#3 - 2013-12-04 02:45:04 UTC
HTFU

Also, eve isn't for everyone.
Maybe we enjoy being evil?

Wat™

Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-12-04 02:49:49 UTC
Darth Peaches wrote:
Can I have ur stuff?


You're somewhat illiterate aren't you?
Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-12-04 02:51:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Samael Pserad
Jim Era wrote:
HTFU

Also, eve isn't for everyone.
Maybe we enjoy being evil?


Yes, that is very apparent. And somewhere in the background the giant empires of game companies like Blizzard stand back and laugh at CCP like a Goonswarm Titan Pilot laughs at the battle venture trying to gank it. I bet even Turbine makes more money.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#6 - 2013-12-04 02:53:31 UTC
Wait. You managed to get several billion of assets but didn't get over the training times? You know, with that amount of ISK you could have just bought yourself a PvP character on the Bazaar!
Jim Era
#7 - 2013-12-04 02:54:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Era
OHH

I get it now

posting in a revealed "Grr Goons" thread



OP clearly didn't learn that bigger isn't better....

Wat™

Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-12-04 02:55:38 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Wait. You managed to get several billion of assets but didn't get over the training times? You know, with that amount of ISK you could have just bought yourself a PvP character on the Bazaar!



i suspect plex and p2w didn't work for him

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unread OATHS wants you. Come to the WH "Safety in eve is the greatest fallacy you will ever encounter. Once you accept this you will truely enjoy this game."

Darth Peaches
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-12-04 02:56:01 UTC
Samael Pserad wrote:
Darth Peaches wrote:
Can I have ur stuff?


You're somewhat illiterate aren't you?


Actually 100% illiterate, in fact I have no idea what I am typing right now. It is quite the statistical oddity that my random button mashing can in fact lead to some coherent ajkehancakeafjdkfnwe adjfwoancn;e. aoefhandceia. foehcafel,asdmf.
Lady Areola Fappington
#10 - 2013-12-04 02:56:20 UTC
Gotta ask, what ship were you wanting to fly that takes a whole year of skilling for?

My go-to ship for PeeVeePee is typically Hurricane. Sometimes I'll throw down in a Scythe for frig fun roams. Neither took over a year to skill into.


I thinks, this complaint is less a "skillpoints" issue and more a "skill" issue.
Anyway, best of luck finding a game you fit better.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-12-04 02:56:35 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Wait. You managed to get several billion of assets but didn't get over the training times? You know, with that amount of ISK you could have just bought yourself a PvP character on the Bazaar!


Meh... I don't like how you people design characters. They all look like nazi supersoldier Silvester Stallone wannabes.
Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-12-04 02:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Samael Pserad
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Gotta ask, what ship were you wanting to fly that takes a whole year of skilling for?

My go-to ship for PeeVeePee is typically Hurricane. Sometimes I'll throw down in a Scythe for frig fun roams. Neither took over a year to skill into.


I thinks, this complaint is less a "skillpoints" issue and more a "skill" issue.
Anyway, best of luck finding a game you fit better.


You win the math fail of year award if you think 4 million SP has a chance against 20 million. But maybe you're just a complete dumb dumb.
Jim Era
#13 - 2013-12-04 02:58:12 UTC
I was wrong, this is a troll thread.

I want to look like Sly.

Wat™

Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#14 - 2013-12-04 03:00:45 UTC
Brave Newbies Inc

Members 5539


Seriously you cant get a group together to protect a hauler?



I think your problem is you're doing it wrong. If you look at eve in a "skills/assets" to the rescue methodology you will always be on the defensive.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg

Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-12-04 03:01:25 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
I was wrong, this is a troll thread.

I want to look like Sly.


There's little left to do but troll now. Honestly, I played the game for five months and met one person who was moderately friendly. 99% of people don't even respond if you try to message them or talk to them in local. This game sucks and its subscription numbers prove it.
Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-12-04 03:03:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Samael Pserad
Rayo Atra wrote:
Brave Newbies Inc

Members 5539


Seriously you cant get a group together to protect a hauler?



I think your problem is you're doing it wrong. If you look at eve in a "skills/assets" to the rescue methodology you will always be on the defensive.


Nah, I really expected the hauler to get ganked. But I'm the kind of person who, no matter how many skill points I have, I'm not going to gank that industrial going through low or null. Honestly, ask the corp, I gave away 5 billion ISK in assets - I'm not so much worried about the fact that my industrial got ganked in null (shocking) so much as I realized this game is a giant waste of time that isn't very fun as opposed to MMO's that are great fun and are still a waste of time. Enjoy yourself.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#17 - 2013-12-04 03:04:16 UTC
Bye-bye.

PS: can i have your stuff?

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Lady Areola Fappington
#18 - 2013-12-04 03:04:31 UTC
Samael Pserad wrote:

You win the math fail of year award if you think 4 million SP has a chance against 20 million. But maybe you're just a complete dumb dumb.



I do. 20mil SP means jack-all when only 2 mil of those SP are relevant to the hulls/fittings at hand.

It's OK though, I understand that, for some people, it's important to transfer a personal failure away from self. Kind of an immature coping mechanism, but whatevs.

Have fun with your future gaming!

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Samael Pserad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-12-04 03:05:09 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
Bye-bye.

PS: can i have your stuff?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy
Darth Peaches
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-12-04 03:06:01 UTC
Samael Pserad wrote:
Jim Era wrote:
I was wrong, this is a troll thread.

I want to look like Sly.


There's little left to do but troll now. Honestly, I played the game for five months and met one person who was moderately friendly. 99% of people don't even respond if you try to message them or talk to them in local. This game sucks and its subscription numbers prove it.

EvE is a game of patience and finding out how to win even when you are the underdog. Obviously you lack such patience and determination. Now only if you could also manage to leave without making the 100,000,000th "I'm quitting" thread.
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