Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As others have stated, who would risk a billion ISK ship in a wormhole without a covert ops cloak?

Back to the drawing board CCP Rise.

Where did CCP say this is for wormholes?

low scan res? i raise you 1 falcon.

No one and i mean NO ONE will use this ship for exploration!

Its suicidal without a cloak.

Common sense needed in CCP I recon.

And even if it didnt die horribly to gatecamps - it doesnt do more damage than the stratios, and it warps soooo slooowwww

Building a battleship for exploration, while giving it no real means of getting from a to b is bad. Building a battleship for the sole purpose of exploration is worse. This is a gimic ship currently. There are lesser ships, smaller ships, faster ships, cheaper ships, that can do the exact same thing as this ship does. The only difference is that they all are not painted white.

Why be typical with eve ships when you have the opportunity to really effect change. To create a faction battleship that people will want to bring out in combat.

Ask yourself this, "Why bring a 2 billion is ship (The Nestor), when a 100 million isk battleship ship can do the same thing".

The Stratios, nobody's bringing it out on roving gangs to blap people to death mainly because people keep asking themselves.

"Why bring a 400 million isk ship, to do what a 40 million isk ship can do."

There realistically is not enough difference between the Stratios vs others. Eventually people will start bringing it out more. Bombers bar will start to enjoy using it, and these ships will start flying around and dying a bunch, but its limited role and capabilities does not warrant a significant investment in anytype of major deployment.

WHY bring this Battleship to ANYTHING but a highsec PVE site? Wormhole play? Bring T3 and fit it to tank the damn explosion. Even IF it blows up, its still less of a cost than this battleship. I want people to look at the Nestor and say... Ok our gang needs a few of these. When people feel the need to commit a few of these to a combat operation, then this ship is a success. Same as people feeling the need to bring a billion isk bhaalgorn to the field. It has a unmistakable value. Yes there are other ships that can neut, but people see the value of having THAT faction ship there. I'd like the same to happen to the Nestor, and I personally believe making it a logi boat, that has the capabilities inbetween the cruiser and the carrier maybe it.

Giving it more guns or damage bonuses won't cut it because we already have a cheapie battleship that covers basically every type of damage in the game already, and in multiple different configurations. To really get it out there, you have to give it more than just a few repairers else people will just say "lets just bring more guardians".

Currently people are going to undock in jita, giggle a little, and dock it back up. It looks pretty, it has the roles we initially believe would be good, but then when we sat down and actually digested the ship, we are all realizing that there is no reason to own it. We can bring a cheaper, faster, more capable ship that can do more than this battleship can.

Wall complete.

NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
500% multiplies the cloaked velocity (Which is less then blackops get with blackops L5)
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers

Note: can jump through covert cynosural fields and cynosural fields

Slot layout: 6H, 6M, 7L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 85km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 26 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700

Now you can get around without your covert ops cloak to explore and what not. Just get your recon, covert ops, or SoE frigate/cruiser light a cyno and bam you have your SoE BS and even with a cloak bonus. Happy now? If not I could care less. That's the best idea I say. Because you aren't getting a covert ops cloak on a BS.

People will tear there hair out if you suggest that this ship should become a hyperion version 2.

Strikes me as a really unfocused ship.

A boost to RR throughput without a boost to range will put this in a similar position to tech 3 cruiser logistics fits - amazingly good 5% of the time, and basically pointless 95% of the time. That's not an issue with this hull so much as it is an issue with baseline RR range on modules.

Then it has range bonuses, but likely can't fit modules to function as a sniper (it needs to manage both laser range and drone range), and exploration bonuses which will likely not be used outside wormholes. Finally it has more midslots and less lows than I'd expect on an armor battleship.


I do not see this being popular at the ~1600m pricetag for a BPC.


Finally, can I suggest you make the BPC purchase more of an ISK sink. Instead of ~1500m worth of LP and ~100m ISK, how about making the highsec one cost 300k LP (~750m) and 750m ISK. More ISK leaving the economy is a good thing, and if you can fix this ship so that it is desirable enough for forty thousand of them are purchased quickly after release, removing 30 trillion ISK from the economy will be a good thing.

First, I like the Hyperion.

Second, How is what I suggested in any way making the Nestor similar to the Hyperion?