Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Your probes find a machariel in a DED plex. You warp to zero to tackle, but land on the entrance gate instead. Machariel in the 5th room just laughs at you in local, takes his time to finish the plex, and warps off. To add insult to injury, you cant light cynos in DED complexes, and you cant move around cloaked either throught room gates, and you always land to zero on the gate.

Ratters in null-sec should NOT be this safe.

Please consider redesigning mechanic so that

a) prober can warp directly to the ratter no matter what room he is in
b) remove cov cyno restriction
c) allow warping to gates at range without workarounds.

This does not make running complexes any easier. The only way it makes things easier is if a ratter was forced to warp out, he can now warp to his cloaked alt in the right room right away, without going through cleared rooms again. This is not a big deal. And no, sometimes setting up an ambush on the entrance is NOT a viable alternative, sometimes, with 50+ in local, you need to get a gank in 1-2 mins and get out, or youre dead.

Right...

Only if the whole room respawned and switched immediately to the guy warping. Lighting a cyno and bringing in extra ships should cause an escalation like in WH anoms. Nobody should be able to PvP completely safe.

And this will actually make running ANY anom in null completely trivial. After MJDs you could solo almost any anom. If you can just warp in at basically any range you want then all you will need is a t2 raven or something to solo everything that doesn't outtank you. The bloodraider plexes will be a joke as you will be able to outrange the neuts. Also bypassing gates means you can bring carriers into DEDs again making it very easy.

Also I suspect this is the same deadspace mechanics that missions and FW use aswell. You will have made every LvL5 soloable and people will start hotdropping on t1 frigs in FW.

tl;dr: NO

all level 5s are soloable now with new marauders anyways. moot point.

Amen, same thing happened to our t3 gank squad. We spotted a machariel/vindi dualboxing, but he was in room 7 of The Maze. No chance to get him. he was laughing at us in local (until we killed the boss in his plex and stole his loot :))

because the rooms have been unlocked and finished allready.

Any request that is made to make the OPs life easier at the expense of others should not be taken seriously. There is nothing stopping the OP from using the gates, going to the last room and forcing the mach to flee thus denying him his loot.

wow jumped the gun a bit have ye?

a) you assume every plexer is already in the last room
b) you assume he doesn't want to fight you

I'm sorry OP, I don't see why you need a direct warp-to-the-Plexer option.

Use an inty, and gogogogo.... or stick to hunting anomaly runners.

So why don't you simply request that you land farther than 2 km's off the warp in beacon. If they place a decloak can, tough luck for you. If they don't, then you can stealthily move through. There's no need to make a warp-to-zero function on Plexers.

Deadspace is why you learn to catch people coming and going, as well as inside the plex.