EVE General Discussion

Hello all,

I'm a little surprised that the Wikipedia article on cyberdelics has a section which takes up half of the article about its demise. I'm certain that many of you would beg to differ.

I've come to find that EVE is possibly the very cutting edge of testing human nature in an experimental virtual environment. One may try things that would come with enormous risk AFK, but are perfectly safe to explore within New Eden. One has the ability to emulate extravagant material wealth, when in their corporeal existence they are a mere teacher or fireman.

One of the more interesting aspects of EVE is it's market. Sure, one may blow off steam in PvP, but there is another side to EVE where one can test the limits of their memory, or psychological endurance while keeping track of buy and sell orders, or even multitasking abilities.

One can discover an underlying Machiavellian, or even sociopathic tendency deeply hidden in their own psyche when there are few consequences to their behavior. Or one may find that their ego truly doesn't have a hold on them, and they can be free to pursue their whims ad infinitum.

I have reason to suspect that EVE is only the very beginning of a new kind of microscope--metaphorically speaking--to examine and dissect the nature of humanity. I even have great confidence in the possibility that CCP will--in the future--develop a tier II vr which will propel the changes and the theories further.

If you are interested, I have created a chat channel under the name of psychonaut, and I hope it can attract a few people to have a meta discussion about EVE, and perhaps even broader topics.

I wish there was some place outside of the game that we could discuss these topics as well. Sounds interesting but I'm not always in game. Oh, if only there were some sort of communication device outside of EVE that would allow this!

Haha, just sittin' on the bus, updatin' my market orders on my phone... Chattin' it up in local.

You can't, yet. But with respect to Dust514 integration and such, it's not terribly unlikely.

Isn't a psychonaut defined as one who has vast experience in drugs and taking multiple drug types at once for the experience?

Well that explains OP...

That would not be the definition of psychonaut. I think you can extrapolate the general definition by examining the two roots of the word.

There are a lot of psychonauts who focus on meditation/yoga.

Also, psychonauts are generally against the reckless use of drugs, and are usually not advocates of anything other than hallucinogens.

I personally haven't used any hallucinogens for several years.

Yeah, but you don't need to achieve that via drug usage (isolation chambers, lucid dreams, etc, are also tools used for that)

Also, Psychonauts is an awesome video game.

I pride myself on being quite intelligent a knowledgeable so I might be... Wait... Isolation chambers? Lucid dreams? I enjoy watching Fringe too, but you know it's just a TV show, right? Right?! RIGHT?!?

Ok, if anyone actually thinks I'm saying that teacher's or firemen are not important, I think you might be missing the point a little.

Mere as in mere compared to I dunno, say, a billionaire?

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Something like that.

But please, do go on.

History is ending because the dominator culture has led the human species into a blind alley, and as the inevitable chaostrophie approaches, people look for metaphors and answers. Every time a culture gets into trouble it casts itself back into the past looking for the last sane moment it ever knew. And the last sane moment we ever knew was on the plains of Africa 15,000 years ago rocked in the cradle of the Great Horned Mushroom Goddess before history, before standing armies, before slavery and property, before warfare and phonetic alphabets and monotheism, before, before, before.

And this is where the future is taking us because the secret faith of the twentieth century is not modernism, the secret faith of the twentieth century is nostalgia for the archaic, nostalgia for the paleolithic, and that gives us body piercing, abstract expressionism, surrealism, jazz, rock-n-roll and catastrophe theory. The 20th century mind is nostalgic for the paradise that once existed on the mushroom dotted plains of Africa where the plant-human symbiosis occurred that pulled us out of the animal body and into the tool-using, culture-making, imagination-exploring creature that we are.

And why does this matter? It matters because it shows that the way out is back and that the future is a forward escape into the past. This is what the psychedelic experience means. Its a doorway out of history and into the wiring under the board in eternity. And I tell you this because if the community understands what it is that holds it together the community will be better able to streamline itself for flight into hyperspace because what we need is a new myth, what we need is a new true story that tells us where we're going in the universe and that true story is that the ego is a product of pathology, and when psilocybin is regularly part of the human experience the ego is supressed and the supression of the ego means the defeat of the dominators, the materialists, the product peddlers.

Psychedelics return us to the inner worth of the self, to the importance of the feeling of immediate experience - and nobody can sell that to you and nobody can buy it from you, so the dominator culture is not interested in the felt presence of immediate experience, but that's what holds the community together.

And as we break out of the silly myths of science, and the infantile obsessions of the marketplace what we discover through the psychedelic experience is that in the body, IN THE BODY, there are Niagras of beauty, alien beauty, alien dimensions that are part of the self, the richest part of life.

I think of going to the grave without having a psychedelic experience like going to the grave without ever having sex. It means that you never figured out what it is all about. The mystery is in the body and the way the body works itself into nature. What the Archaic Revival means is shamanism, ecstacy, orgiastic sexuality, and the defeat of the three enemies of the people. And the three enemies of the people are hegemony, monogamy and monotony! And if you get them on the run you have the dominators sweating folks, because that means your getting it all reconnected, and getting it all reconnected means putting aside the idea of separateness and self-definition through thing-fetish.

Getting it all connected means tapping into the Gaian mind, and the Gaian mind is what we're calling the psychedelic experience. Its an experience of the living fact of the entelechy of the planet. And without that experience we wander in a desert of bogus ideologies. But with that experience the compass of the self can be set, and that's the idea; figuring out how to reset the compass of the self through community, through ecstatic dance, through psychedelics, sexuality, intelligence, INTELLIGENCE. This is what we have to have to make the forward escape into hyperspace.