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Akkar Kardashev

The Last Days of Rome

Likes received: 32

#1 - 2013-12-03 18:31:24 UTC

I don't know where to put this so i'm putting it here:

My request is simple; all i'd like is the option to inject and queue all skills no matter whether i've got the pre requisites or not.

I will explain:

On my alt i'm currently training Industry Level 5, this will be completed in 7 hours.
In 7 hours i will be in bed.

When Industry 5 is done, i'd like to immediately begin training Mining Barge but i can't as i will be asleep.

Industry 5 is a prerequisite of Mining Barge; this means i cannot inject it now or place it in my queue to begin after Industry 5.

As i will be in bed, i've had to place Spaceship Command 4 to begin after Industry 5.

I don't care for Spaceship Command at this current juncture. I want Mining Barge to begin immediately as soon as my alt has the necessary prerequisites; Astrogeology 3 (done) and Industry 5.

My request is: Please, CCP, allow us to inject and queue all skills regardless of whether we have the necessary prerequisites or not.

Now, i'm not asking you to let us train them without the prerequisites, just to queue them, and, only if the prerequisites will all be trained by the time the queue reaches that particular skill.

Example:

(imagine below are some skill queues, ok?)

[Industry 5]
[Mining Barge 1]
[Mining Barge 2] .... etc
The above being a valid skill queue

[Industry 4]
[Mining Barge 1] .... etc
The above, obviously, being invalid.

Basically, i want you to let us put the skill in so long as we are currently training the prerequisite skill and that they all fit.

In the event that a player puts the skill in and then pulls the prerequisite skill from the queue, you could either pull both skills or give them an error message similar to the one you get when you try to pull a Level 4 when the 5 is in the queue:
"This level of the skill cannot be removed as there is a higher level of it still in the queue"
except in this case the error message would be more like
"This skill cannot be removed as it is a prerequisite of a skill that is still in the queue"

It wouldn't alter the game drastically, it just makes things a teeny tiny bit more convenient.

Please do it. It will make you sexy.

Thanks.

[b]This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.[/b]

Bat Country Pandemic Horde 19,001
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#2 - 2013-12-03 18:35:58 UTC 2 You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 559
Jove Death Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation Likes received: 559	#3 - 2013-12-03 18:36:59 UTC 7 Somebody please move this to features and ideas. Also you could have made the post more sexier by not putting anything what so ever to do with mining. PS I hope you have a permit for that barge when its ready. Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.


Akkar Kardashev The Last Days of Rome Likes received: 32	#4 - 2013-12-03 18:37:48 UTC \| Edited by: Akkar Kardashev 5 baltec1 wrote: You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours. To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5. so no, you can't [b]This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.[/b]


Akkar Kardashev The Last Days of Rome Likes received: 32	#5 - 2013-12-03 18:38:42 UTC \| Edited by: Akkar Kardashev 1 Jove Death wrote: Somebody please move this to features and ideas. Also you could have made the post more sexier by not putting anything what so ever to do with mining. PS I hope you have a permit for that barge when its ready. Also, no. Permits [b]This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.[/b]


baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#6 - 2013-12-03 18:41:13 UTC Akkar Kardashev wrote: baltec1 wrote: You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours. To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5. so no, you can't You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

Akkar Kardashev

The Last Days of Rome

Likes received: 32

#7 - 2013-12-03 18:42:57 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

Akkar Kardashev wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5.

so no, you can't

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

Are we even playing the same game? No you can't.

I just tried it to double check.

"To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5."

That's the error message when you try to either inject or drag it into the queue.

[b]This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.[/b]

baltec1

Bat Country

Pandemic Horde

Likes received: 19,001

#8 - 2013-12-03 18:46:04 UTC

Akkar Kardashev wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Akkar Kardashev wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5.

so no, you can't

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

Ah I see what you mean now.

I was thinking this was just another whine about wanting longer training queues.


Akkar Kardashev The Last Days of Rome Likes received: 32	#9 - 2013-12-03 18:47:27 UTC \| Edited by: Akkar Kardashev 6 Should have read it lol [b]This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.[/b]

Negative-Impact 54
gobbybobby Negative-Impact Likes received: 54	#10 - 2013-12-03 18:48:00 UTC 6 You think urself lucky, there never used to be a skill q, people HAD to set an Alarm clock to change there skills around. Just put something else in to train first, and then come back to the skill you want when you can log in.

BGG Wolves 287
Jythier Smith BGG Wolves Likes received: 287	#11 - 2013-12-03 19:01:55 UTC Anyone actually setting an alarm clock to change their skills around were too addicted. I would have been that guy. :P

Tul Breetai

Impromptu Asset Requisition

Likes received: 744

#12 - 2013-12-03 19:19:45 UTC | Edited by: Tul Breetai

baltec1 wrote:

You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

Face-

baltec1 wrote:

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

palm.

OP: It's a reasonable request that's been kicked around for years, and gone nowhere. Unless you can turn this into a threadnaught, I don't see it being any different this time...

EDIT:

gobbybobby wrote:

You think urself lucky, there never used to be a skill q, people HAD to set an Alarm clock to change there skills around. Just put something else in to train first, and then come back to the skill you want when you can log in.

"it used to be worse so deal with it" - good luck with that threadnaught.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

911
Mr Pragmatic Likes received: 911	#13 - 2013-12-03 19:30:34 UTC 5 Sure, great idea. Bitter vets will tear up and rage. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 109
Pandora Barzane Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 109	#14 - 2013-12-03 19:35:44 UTC 8 confirming that baltec never reads the message he's replying to.

Sirinda

Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium

Likes received: 402

#15 - 2013-12-03 19:35:59 UTC | Edited by: Sirinda

baltec1 wrote:

Akkar Kardashev wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

You can do this so long as it is within 24 hours.

To learn that skill requires having already learned the following skills: Industry : Level 5.

so no, you can't

You can if the end of industry 5 finished within 24 hours.

Actually, you can't inject a skill that you don't have the prerequisites for even if said prerequisite is training right now. Thus, you also cannot queue it, either.

EDIT: Welp, didn't realize you'd responded in the 'derp my bad' kind of way a bit further down.

Jythier Smith

BGG Wolves

Likes received: 287

#16 - 2013-12-03 19:43:01 UTC

It would be nice if injection of all skills was allowed but training needed to be set in a certain order, sort of like industry 5 can't be trained before industry 4. Why not Mining Barge 1 can't be in the queue before it's prereqs?

That would be nice, and would let you inject skills whenever so you wouldn't have to worry about the skill book locations if you happen to move from the time you acquired it to the time you need it.


Akkar Kardashev The Last Days of Rome Likes received: 32	#17 - 2013-12-03 19:50:03 UTC so basically I've got more chance of getting a date with the queen? good to know. thanks. [b]This is my rifle. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun.[/b]

Viziam Amarr Empire 11,532
James Amril-Kesh Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 11,532	#18 - 2013-12-03 21:21:20 UTC 3 I'd be okay with this as long as doing so forces you to complete the prerequisite - in other words injecting the dependent skill locks the prerequisite skill into the queue so you can't remove it or add any skills in front of it. Enjoying the rain today? ;)

The LGBT Last Supper 770
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper Likes received: 770	#19 - 2013-12-03 21:22:26 UTC Just fill it up with long training skills to knock a few hours off of them while you sleep. Mining will will make you go braindead so don't rush into the most boring activity in a game since Desert Bus.

School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 1,259
Aiwha School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 1,259	#20 - 2013-12-03 21:32:27 UTC Train another skill for 12 hours. Sanity is fun leaving the body.