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TharOkha
0asis Group
#501 - 2013-12-03 06:59:40 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Exactly. Yes I am. There is no counter to refitting.

Yes there is. You can field depot for yourself and refit more scramblers. Or you should bring more friends with you. Or fly heavy dic.Your adaptability and skill is your only limitation.

Quote:
If you rat you should HTFU and fit some PvP gear instead of pure ratting, then you don't need to exploit dodgy carebear depots.


If you solo PVP maybe you should fit more scramblers.(or try PVE fit. Its the same stupid idea as your "use PVP fit for PVE")
Sorry dude but all im hearing from you is "he outsmarted me, i demand nerf".

Oh and btw, dont use word "carebear". Its just silly in your case.

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#502 - 2013-12-03 07:02:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Infinity Ziona wrote:

We'll see if they feel the same way the first, second, third ... time they lose a cap ship killmail to this.



Someone is unaware that Carriers allow ship refitting services.

Seriously, you're just terrible. I wonder how you will try and flip flop to make it look like you already knew that.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#503 - 2013-12-03 07:27:24 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

We'll see if they feel the same way the first, second, third ... time they lose a cap ship killmail to this.



Someone is unaware that Carriers allow ship refitting services.

Seriously, you're just terrible. I wonder how you will try and flip flop to make it look like you already knew that.

Unless they changed you could not self refit from your own carrier. You needed a corp maintenance array or another carriers refitting bay to do so.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#504 - 2013-12-03 07:31:30 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

We'll see if they feel the same way the first, second, third ... time they lose a cap ship killmail to this.



Someone is unaware that Carriers allow ship refitting services.

Seriously, you're just terrible. I wonder how you will try and flip flop to make it look like you already knew that.

Unless they changed you could not self refit from your own carrier. You needed a corp maintenance array or another carriers refitting bay to do so.


Because people solo carrier without available backup... when, precisely?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#505 - 2013-12-03 07:40:02 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

We'll see if they feel the same way the first, second, third ... time they lose a cap ship killmail to this.



Someone is unaware that Carriers allow ship refitting services.

Seriously, you're just terrible. I wonder how you will try and flip flop to make it look like you already knew that.

Unless they changed you could not self refit from your own carrier. You needed a corp maintenance array or another carriers refitting bay to do so.


Because people solo carrier without available backup... when, precisely?

lol you didn't know that did you, and you're calling me 'terrible' :)

Plenty of people solo in carriers, you just have to know where to look. Y-CWQY is a great system for Carriers in anoms, also spotted a 17 Domi ISBoxer and a 10 man Hulk + Orca team there. I afk in peoples systems so I get to see what they're doing, they either pay the rent and don't undock or undock with me there ;)

I think you'll find most of the deep null systems with lots of rat kills will have the odd carrier ratter or two. Tribal band used to have quite a few in MVUO-F.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#506 - 2013-12-03 07:42:25 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

We'll see if they feel the same way the first, second, third ... time they lose a cap ship killmail to this.



Someone is unaware that Carriers allow ship refitting services.

Seriously, you're just terrible. I wonder how you will try and flip flop to make it look like you already knew that.

Unless they changed you could not self refit from your own carrier. You needed a corp maintenance array or another carriers refitting bay to do so.


Because people solo carrier without available backup... when, precisely?

lol you didn't know that did you, and you're calling me 'terrible' :)

Plenty of people solo in carriers, you just have to know where to look. Y-CWQY is a great system for Carriers in anoms, also spotted a 17 Domi ISBoxer and a 10 man Hulk + Orca team there. I afk in peoples systems so I get to see what they're doing, they either pay the rent and don't undock or undock with me there ;)

I think you'll find most of the deep null systems with lots of rat kills will have the odd carrier ratter or two. Tribal band used to have quite a few in MVUO-F.


*facepalm*

I said available, numbskull. Batphone, cyno backup, refit, leave.

I did not in any way say people don't do anoms in Carriers.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#507 - 2013-12-03 07:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

I did not in any way say people don't do anoms in Carriers.

lmao... maybe you should drop a depot and fit a DCU?

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#508 - 2013-12-03 07:51:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
So, is this the best you have? You said that "they" will start crying once they lose out on capship kills because of the depot, I correct you and inform you that carriers allow refitting in space and have for a while.

And your response is to attack a statement I did not even make?

At least pretend like you are actually arguing. We already know that you're ignorant, so you don't really lose anything by being honest.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#509 - 2013-12-03 08:32:46 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, is this the best you have? You said that "they" will start crying once they lose out on capship kills because of the depot, I correct you and inform you that carriers allow refitting in space and have for a while.

And your response is to attack a statement I did not even make?

At least pretend like you are actually arguing. We already know that you're ignorant, so you don't really lose anything by being honest.

You need to train [Comprehension] Kalrus. They was clearly directed at the people who support this lame change. Once people start missing out on ratting caps to this non-consensual pvp nerf they'll come whining to the forums.

All a cap needs is cap boosters wcs and backup arrays and its uncatchable. Got plenty of room for those. It can warp, it can refill its cap it can jump.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#510 - 2013-12-03 08:36:45 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, is this the best you have? You said that "they" will start crying once they lose out on capship kills because of the depot, I correct you and inform you that carriers allow refitting in space and have for a while.

And your response is to attack a statement I did not even make?

At least pretend like you are actually arguing. We already know that you're ignorant, so you don't really lose anything by being honest.

You need to train [Comprehension] Kalrus. They was clearly directed at the people who support this lame change. Once people start missing out on ratting caps to this non-consensual pvp nerf they'll come whining to the forums.

All a cap needs is cap boosters wcs and backup arrays and its uncatchable. Got plenty of room for those. It can warp, it can refill its cap it can jump.


They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.

Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#511 - 2013-12-03 08:38:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, is this the best you have? You said that "they" will start crying once they lose out on capship kills because of the depot, I correct you and inform you that carriers allow refitting in space and have for a while.

And your response is to attack a statement I did not even make?

At least pretend like you are actually arguing. We already know that you're ignorant, so you don't really lose anything by being honest.

You need to train [Comprehension] Kalrus. They was clearly directed at the people who support this lame change. Once people start missing out on ratting caps to this non-consensual pvp nerf they'll come whining to the forums.

All a cap needs is cap boosters wcs and backup arrays and its uncatchable. Got plenty of room for those. It can warp, it can refill its cap it can jump.


They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.

Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy.

There's a reason all my stealth bombers are training up to fit covert cyno's. Its not so I can solo hot drop caps.

Also they are not next to uncatchable. If I go to a renter system and I cloak a covert cyno bomber in every system they own they have to undock. They already do undock with me in there. Its that or not play EVE.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#512 - 2013-12-03 08:40:13 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, is this the best you have? You said that "they" will start crying once they lose out on capship kills because of the depot, I correct you and inform you that carriers allow refitting in space and have for a while.

And your response is to attack a statement I did not even make?

At least pretend like you are actually arguing. We already know that you're ignorant, so you don't really lose anything by being honest.

You need to train [Comprehension] Kalrus. They was clearly directed at the people who support this lame change. Once people start missing out on ratting caps to this non-consensual pvp nerf they'll come whining to the forums.

All a cap needs is cap boosters wcs and backup arrays and its uncatchable. Got plenty of room for those. It can warp, it can refill its cap it can jump.


They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.

Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy.

There's a reason all my stealth bombers are training up to fit covert cyno's. Its not so I can solo hot drop caps.


Ah, yeah, the thing you keep mentioning. I keep hearing about this mythical stealth bomber ISBoxer wing of yours, but only on the forums, never on a killboard.

Do they exist? Or are you just further blowing smoke?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#513 - 2013-12-03 08:46:01 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
a killboard.


A what?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#514 - 2013-12-03 08:46:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, is this the best you have? You said that "they" will start crying once they lose out on capship kills because of the depot, I correct you and inform you that carriers allow refitting in space and have for a while.

And your response is to attack a statement I did not even make?

At least pretend like you are actually arguing. We already know that you're ignorant, so you don't really lose anything by being honest.

You need to train [Comprehension] Kalrus. They was clearly directed at the people who support this lame change. Once people start missing out on ratting caps to this non-consensual pvp nerf they'll come whining to the forums.

All a cap needs is cap boosters wcs and backup arrays and its uncatchable. Got plenty of room for those. It can warp, it can refill its cap it can jump.


They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.

Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy.

There's a reason all my stealth bombers are training up to fit covert cyno's. Its not so I can solo hot drop caps.


Ah, yeah, the thing you keep mentioning. I keep hearing about this mythical stealth bomber ISBoxer wing of yours, but only on the forums, never on a killboard.

Do they exist? Or are you just further blowing smoke?

We don't post kills. They're still training up at the moment though. Only a month old. Insanity Claws, Bruiser Subjourne, Rasta Danyel, Derry Ayre, Sparky 'Sparks' Tyrell, Little Baltec (he's Baltecs and my Love Child!) and my lovely L Dopa gopher *****...

Be taking them to VFK shortly to practice on Goons...

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#515 - 2013-12-03 08:49:59 UTC
Quote:
Yes there is. You can field depot for yourself and refit more scramblers. Or you should bring more friends with you. Or fly heavy dic.Your adaptability and skill is your only limitation.


^

IZ, cherry picking arguments since.. forever?


Quote:
Why is everyone ignoring what this does to ECM? It's easy to call things balanced when you've figured out strategies (ie: WORK AROUNDS) in your mind to keep things balanced. Work around this:

I setup my 5 x Falcon fleet spread around the gate @ extreme distances each with their own mobile depot
My buddies setup with 5 x DPS fits.
You warp in with 20 players. 20 vs. 10. We should lose, right?
Oh wait, I'm jamming 15 of your 20 players permanently because I refit exactly for the ships on grid.


Implying that ECM isn't already ******** with or without depots.

Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#516 - 2013-12-03 09:03:37 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.

Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy.

There's a reason all my stealth bombers are training up to fit covert cyno's. Its not so I can solo hot drop caps.

Also they are not next to uncatchable. If I go to a renter system and I cloak a covert cyno bomber in every system they own they have to undock. They already do undock with me in there. Its that or not play EVE.


Sounds like you don't have any problem after all.

Decloak and point them as soon as they get to the anom, and they won't have nearly enough time to get the Depot onlined before you incap it.

Glad you've solved your "problem".

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#517 - 2013-12-03 09:10:02 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
They are already next to uncatchable if they have any sense at all.

Especially since you are making this whine from the point of view of the "solo player". Cyno in backup, solo player dies. I'd biomass myself if I ever lost a carrier to one guy.

There's a reason all my stealth bombers are training up to fit covert cyno's. Its not so I can solo hot drop caps.

Also they are not next to uncatchable. If I go to a renter system and I cloak a covert cyno bomber in every system they own they have to undock. They already do undock with me in there. Its that or not play EVE.


Sounds like you don't have any problem after all.

Decloak and point them as soon as they get to the anom, and they won't have nearly enough time to get the Depot onlined before you incap it.

Glad you've solved your "problem".

Yeah yay what a fantastic solution hey? You're obviously not reading what I have been posting. You can't reinforce the depots. They carrier pilots will have already reinforced them, whenever they recharge enough shields, the carrier pilot simply has to shoot them again.

Drop depot, shoot it to reinforce, scoop it, eject it, anchor it... now you can refit unless someone blaps its entire 14k of ehp.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#518 - 2013-12-03 09:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah yay what a fantastic solution hey? You're obviously not reading what I have been posting. You can't reinforce the depots. They carrier pilots will have already reinforced them, whenever they recharge enough shields, the carrier pilot simply has to shoot them again.

Drop depot, shoot it to reinforce, scoop it, eject it, anchor it... now you can refit unless someone blaps its entire 14k of ehp.


So you're saying the Carrier pilots will:

Drop the Depot
Wait 60 seconds for it to anchor (during which time they can't refit from it)
Shoot their own depot to reinforce it (after which point they can't refit from it)
Then scoop it back up to repeat the idiotic process?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#519 - 2013-12-03 09:17:43 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah yay what a fantastic solution hey? You're obviously not reading what I have been posting. You can't reinforce the depots. They carrier pilots will have already reinforced them, whenever they recharge enough shields, the carrier pilot simply has to shoot them again.

Drop depot, shoot it to reinforce, scoop it, eject it, anchor it... now you can refit unless someone blaps its entire 14k of ehp.


So you're saying the Carrier pilots will:

Drop the Depot
Wait 60 seconds for it to anchor (during which time they can't refit from it)
Shoot their own depot to reinforce it (after which point they can't refit from it)
Then scoop it back up to repeat the idiotic process?


That's what he's been telling me, yeah.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#520 - 2013-12-03 09:31:16 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah yay what a fantastic solution hey? You're obviously not reading what I have been posting. You can't reinforce the depots. They carrier pilots will have already reinforced them, whenever they recharge enough shields, the carrier pilot simply has to shoot them again.

Drop depot, shoot it to reinforce, scoop it, eject it, anchor it... now you can refit unless someone blaps its entire 14k of ehp.


So you're saying the Carrier pilots will:

Drop the Depot
Wait 60 seconds for it to anchor (during which time they can't refit from it)
Shoot their own depot to reinforce it (after which point they can't refit from it)
Then scoop it back up to repeat the idiotic process?

No, you can drop it anywhere, reinforce it, put it in your cargo, its shields won't regen unless its deployed. When the carrier gets to their ratting spot the deploy it, and sit next to it. Its now not able to be reinforced as long as the carrier pilot doesn't let it regen back to 30%.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)