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Pew Terror
All of it
#241 - 2013-11-29 18:12:54 UTC
Rita Riddick wrote:

I'd like to start a pool for, "How long before the Goonies™ start raising POCO taxes".

I give it 23 days from today.

*Would it violate the EULA to sell stubs for 1b each?



Implying there wont be a complete ransoming of every single piece of PI within 4 jumps or closer to jita on xmas.
flakeys
Doomheim
#242 - 2013-11-29 20:11:09 UTC
Pew Terror wrote:
Can we mark this moment in history already as the first hi sec occurence of:
"I didn't want that POCO anyway..."?



fixed it for you

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#243 - 2013-11-30 10:09:40 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
“Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Oh man, I left this thread a while and come back to non-ironic Sun Tzu quotes from highsec PVP.

Thread keeps on giving.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#244 - 2013-11-30 14:33:03 UTC
Rita Riddick wrote:
flakeys wrote:
So much 'i am the hot shot , no i am ' in this thread ..... it's like a thread full of people trolling themselves over relevancy .

No it's not.



Excuse FCON... they've never experienced space relevancy and can only assume everyone else is seeking it- even if they don't know what it is.
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#245 - 2013-11-30 14:33:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Aivo Dresden
Like others have said, it was interesting. We didn't have the numbers to engage the Noir/DARK/Marmite gang when they came around to reinforce the POCOs. They didn't have the numbers to challenge us when we came around the next day to repair them. A lot of RvB guys got killed on the Jita 4-4 undock and that's unfortunate, but fair play to Marmite and friends. A kill is a kill.

If their contracts were to reinforce the POCOs and kill RvB members in the process, job well done. That's all that matters really. We on the other hand achieved our goals when we repped those POCOs back up the next day, which I'm sure was equally interesting and fun as shooting them 24h earlier. :P

If anything, the POCOs have the potential to bring some more action our way, which is always welcomed. I for one enjoy the occasions on which I get to fleet with my Blue brothers.
Isabela Valentine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#246 - 2013-11-30 20:10:04 UTC
Aivo Dresden wrote:
Like others have said, it was interesting. We didn't have the numbers to engage the Noir/DARK/Marmite gang when they came around to reinforce the POCOs. They didn't have the numbers to challenge us when we came around the next day to repair them. A lot of RvB guys got killed on the Jita 4-4 undock and that's unfortunate, but fair play to Marmite and friends. A kill is a kill.

If their contracts were to reinforce the POCOs and kill RvB members in the process, job well done. That's all that matters really. We on the other hand achieved our goals when we repped those POCOs back up the next day, which I'm sure was equally interesting and fun as shooting them 24h earlier. :P

If anything, the POCOs have the potential to bring some more action our way, which is always welcomed. I for one enjoy the occasions on which I get to fleet with my Blue brothers.


Yes we had fun with the POCO games that were played. It was hard trying to navigate around with the sheer numbers that you guys were able to put out on those RF timers. Well played is all I can say. I look forward to future pew wherever it may be :)
FallenTitan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#247 - 2013-12-01 00:58:51 UTC
Isabela Valentine wrote:


Yes we had fun with the POCO games that were played. It was hard trying to navigate around with the sheer numbers that you guys were able to put out on those RF timers. Well played is all I can say. I look forward to future pew wherever it may be :)


I realize that Noir were just following their merc contracts, but what was that client thinking? Even if you guys got the POCO for him/her and transferred it to the respective corp... How was he/she going to defend it when you left?
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#248 - 2013-12-01 01:47:50 UTC
FallenTitan wrote:
Isabela Valentine wrote:


Yes we had fun with the POCO games that were played. It was hard trying to navigate around with the sheer numbers that you guys were able to put out on those RF timers. Well played is all I can say. I look forward to future pew wherever it may be :)


I realize that Noir were just following their merc contracts, but what was that client thinking? Even if you guys got the POCO for him/her and transferred it to the respective corp... How was he/she going to defend it when you left?



I think that, to be fair to the client, when this first broke out there was a lot so -called advice saying "if you don't like it hire mercenaries" on the forums. This was not well thought out. The only way someone can hold a poco in a valuable place for long is to have in-house military capacity. Constantly hiring mercenaries to defend them makes no economic sense.

So some of the complaints had validity, it is a move that favors large nullsec entities... Except that there are a few high sec groups that can fight. But small industrial corps, they never had a chance.

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Powers Sa
#249 - 2013-12-02 09:19:07 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:

However in all fairness... RVB is still loosing the ISK war against Marmite.

No amount of chest beating is going to change that.

Two words:
Strategic Victory

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Benjamin Bumsicle
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#250 - 2013-12-02 10:20:02 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:

However in all fairness... RVB is still loosing the ISK war against Marmite.

No amount of chest beating is going to change that.

Two words:
Strategic Victory


Well, I laughed. Anyone else?

Forum alt, please ignore.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#251 - 2013-12-02 10:54:40 UTC
Like a strategic retreat instead of Runnnnnn MOFO's...... RUNNN and hideee..... Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#252 - 2013-12-02 17:15:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
I for one would like to thank marmite for weeding out the most eggregious stupid from RvB's ranks. The pimped out missioning Paladin and the multitide of pods in jita were especially cringe worthy (recently). I'd like to think that a few more weeks of this will make people learn better but experience has told me that's highly unlikely. We attract good people but also some incredibly terrible ones. That's what happens when your entire recruiting process consists of hitting the "accept" button on every single app that gets sent in Lol
Zarek Moesia
The Mobius Project
#253 - 2013-12-03 00:05:57 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Like a strategic retreat instead of Runnnnnn MOFO's...... RUNNN and hideee..... Twisted

A standard marmite doctrine for when they can't win without the blob, or out smart people with guns on their ships.
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#254 - 2013-12-03 00:22:53 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
I for one would like to thank marmite for weeding out the most eggregious stupid from RvB's ranks. The pimped out missioning Paladin and the multitide of pods in jita were especially cringe worthy (recently). I'd like to think that a few more weeks of this will make people learn better but experience has told me that's highly unlikely. We attract good people but also some incredibly terrible ones. That's what happens when your entire recruiting process consists of hitting the "accept" button on every single app that gets sent in Lol



I got the feeling reading your post that you need a small reminder of what the purpose of RVB is and its very gentle mission statement.

RVB created for "Everyone" with an open door policy.

If all of a sudden you can't cope with the parameters set out for RVB, perhaps its time for you to move on finally.

People who join RVB are usually noobs, sometimes vets on an alt that just want complication free pvp, sometimes calculated pilots looking to improve their kb stats so they can sell the char, and everyone else in between.

The very second you start becoming some elitist moron who feels that RVB has a recruitment issue, you have pretty much acknowledged you have been in there too long and lost your way.

RVB was never created to become some killboard stat whoring elitist high sec pvp mercs, nor should it ever become that!

It is there for people to learn and improve their pvp, be involved in organised pvp, and disorganised pvp....

To experience combat at will and to enjoy a permanent set of targets they don't have to pay for.

It was never created so that self righteous, self important gits can have a cry over someone elses mistakes or learning curve...

If you want that, you should go join the other high sec mercs berating each other for being "crap at this game".....
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#255 - 2013-12-03 00:56:45 UTC
Yendaj wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
I for one would like to thank marmite for weeding out the most eggregious stupid from RvB's ranks. The pimped out missioning Paladin and the multitide of pods in jita were especially cringe worthy (recently). I'd like to think that a few more weeks of this will make people learn better but experience has told me that's highly unlikely. We attract good people but also some incredibly terrible ones. That's what happens when your entire recruiting process consists of hitting the "accept" button on every single app that gets sent in Lol



I got the feeling reading your post that you need a small reminder of what the purpose of RVB is and its very gentle mission statement.

RVB created for "Everyone" with an open door policy.

If all of a sudden you can't cope with the parameters set out for RVB, perhaps its time for you to move on finally.

People who join RVB are usually noobs, sometimes vets on an alt that just want complication free pvp, sometimes calculated pilots looking to improve their kb stats so they can sell the char, and everyone else in between.

The very second you start becoming some elitist moron who feels that RVB has a recruitment issue, you have pretty much acknowledged you have been in there too long and lost your way.

RVB was never created to become some killboard stat whoring elitist high sec pvp mercs, nor should it ever become that!

It is there for people to learn and improve their pvp, be involved in organised pvp, and disorganised pvp....

To experience combat at will and to enjoy a permanent set of targets they don't have to pay for.

It was never created so that self righteous, self important gits can have a cry over someone elses mistakes or learning curve...

If you want that, you should go join the other high sec mercs berating each other for being "crap at this game".....



Like you've never berated anyone huh?
check out this (completely unrelated)

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#256 - 2013-12-03 01:21:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
Yendaj wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
I for one would like to thank marmite for weeding out the most eggregious stupid from RvB's ranks. The pimped out missioning Paladin and the multitide of pods in jita were especially cringe worthy (recently). I'd like to think that a few more weeks of this will make people learn better but experience has told me that's highly unlikely. We attract good people but also some incredibly terrible ones. That's what happens when your entire recruiting process consists of hitting the "accept" button on every single app that gets sent in Lol



I got the feeling reading your post that you need a small reminder of what the purpose of RVB is and its very gentle mission statement.

RVB created for "Everyone" with an open door policy.

If all of a sudden you can't cope with the parameters set out for RVB, perhaps its time for you to move on finally.

People who join RVB are usually noobs, sometimes vets on an alt that just want complication free pvp, sometimes calculated pilots looking to improve their kb stats so they can sell the char, and everyone else in between.

The very second you start becoming some elitist moron who feels that RVB has a recruitment issue, you have pretty much acknowledged you have been in there too long and lost your way.

RVB was never created to become some killboard stat whoring elitist high sec pvp mercs, nor should it ever become that!

It is there for people to learn and improve their pvp, be involved in organised pvp, and disorganised pvp....

To experience combat at will and to enjoy a permanent set of targets they don't have to pay for.

It was never created so that self righteous, self important gits can have a cry over someone elses mistakes or learning curve...

If you want that, you should go join the other high sec mercs berating each other for being "crap at this game".....



Oh lol. You're precious aren't you? You spent a few weeks in RvB as I recall we called you the crazy kiwi lady. You're about the last person who should give lessons to anyone about anything, never mind tell an RvB director going on 3 and a half years in the organization what we stand for :D


I would never change our recruitment policy, it's what yields us the best players in the game (IMO) it also gets us some of the dumbest but I wouldn't have it any other way.
J'mee Leggs
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#257 - 2013-12-03 01:42:04 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Michael Turate wrote:
Be careful what you wish for Marmites........

I'm not one for trolling, so this is just a cautionary tale. The last time RVB went on a road trip we dismantled Eve Uni wholesale, that trip was in the spirit of gud fites but the recriminations and resignations that followed their defeat meant Uni was never really the same again. Should someone in RVB decide you are a genuine point of interest rather than a temporary annoyance, you might find you've got a little more heat than you can handle. I'm guessing you don't make enough to pay for those T3's by popping frigs on the 4-4 undock, so you must have some industry somewhere, some POS, some PI, some freighters. It can be found and we have the numbers, timezone coverage and ability to go where we need to go and take care of business.

Lets see how this one pans out eh?
Oohhhh pleasseeee try. I will seriously even pay for you to do so.... lol. Lol The isks we make are from the 100-150 regular clients and many other clients we have. Good luck. A few pocos in Abu won't make us rich. Funny how RvB keeps bragging when they keep running with fleets full of battleships/bc/etc etc (50+ and more backup in surrounding system). So stop talking you are just making things worse.....


This one's cute, can we keep him? Of course, we'll have to keep him seperated from our goon pets and he probably isn't house broken. But he's so damn cute. PLEEEEEASE OH PLEEEASE OH PLEASE?
Nimrod's Strength
Bite the pillow
Olde Guarde Historical Preservation Society
#258 - 2013-12-03 02:03:34 UTC
Oh wow another marmite chest beating forum like C&P doesn't have enough of those already.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#259 - 2013-12-03 11:11:32 UTC
J'mee Leggs wrote:
This one's cute, can we keep him? Of course, we'll have to keep him seperated from our goon pets and he probably isn't house broken. But he's so damn cute. PLEEEEEASE OH PLEEEASE OH PLEASE?
You know I need food 3 times a day Lol. A like for you sir...... Blink

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#260 - 2013-12-03 15:51:37 UTC
Yendaj wrote:


RVB created for "Everyone" with an open door policy.



I can vouch for that...

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann