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Dear CCP, Please STOP REUSING Historical Items for Sales & Marketing Promotions

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-11-20 15:52:24 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Update: Quafe Iteron.

In order to incentivize the players to attend the Fanfest 2012 or view the HD stream version of the Fanfest, CCP is handing out a revised version of Quafe T-Shirts AND a unique Quafe Iteron Transport.

My question is, is this going to be another victim of CCP's marketing ploy? Are we going to see this unique Quafe Iteron being offered as 2013 "CCP's New Year Gift?" Like what you guys did with Apotheosis? Zephyr? Echelon? Primae?

I guarantee you that either the attendance rate for the Fanfest or the subscribers for the HD Stream will increase if you assure the players that these items are available only through these venues and never again in the future.

CCP, please listen to us.


In an effort to boost sales of its PLEXs and increase in membership subscriptions, CCP has recently introduced diverse plethora of promotions. Nothing is wrong with that. We all encourage that.

The only problem is that CCP is reusing the old collectible items from previous historical events. As part of the the "Power of 2" program, Apotheosis, a ship of great sentimental value, is being offered as added bonus. For those who are not familiar with the ship, it was a very special version of shuttle offered to all the active users to commemorate the 5th year of the game. Although the ship's market value is only around 15M-20M, it has a great sentimental values to ardent supporters of EVE Online who have been with the game for many many years. Reusing the ship of such historical and sentimental values only devalues the ship' worth and cheapen the memories and experiences of the original holders of the ships.

As part of the "bringing new players initiative," CCP also decided to reuse the Cerebral Accelerator, a unique implant given as part of purchasing the commemorative "Commissioned Officer Edition." The same logic applies to the Accelerator as well. There are some extremely foolish people (like me) who purchased these boxes for the sake of obtaining the unique implant as collectibles. Reusing these items for other promotion only cheapens the sentimental values and experience associated with obtaining the items.

I understand that the magnitude of the issue that I've pointed is nothing compared to other more urgent ingame problems, but it would be nice to not see these historical and sentimental items being recycled through by CCP in the near future. Is it so hard to create different items (different names/IDs), but with same skin/properties for these promotional events? By doing so, the sentimental values of the already existing items would be retained while creating new demands for the new items.


Please release NEW ITEMS instead of recycling old historical items in current/future promotional events.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-11-20 16:03:52 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
There are some losers like me who play this game solely to collect. I know. A sad and an obsessive hobby.

Some people thrive on killmails. We thrive on the size of our ISK wallets and pretty items in our docks.
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-20 16:13:58 UTC
Jeez, give people a little incentive to spend money and they whine about anything.

1. Its easier to release for a special promotion an old item then it is to make a new one. Want them to drop what they are all ready trying to crunch into the winter expansion (its been what, six weeks since Hilmar went all Redemption Vader on us?) to make another useless ship like the Apothesis, Zypher, or Echelon? Or do you want to focus on finishing up on adding 2 meter thermal vents to super caps and the new Star Hulk Destroyers ?

2. The last 2 years, Power of 2 didn't give you anything but the normal offer. And I used it once to make a new account and all I came away with is a lousy T-shirt. Now you got an extra ship and implant, tuck it away in the sock drawer and forget about it. Also, these items are destroyable or consumable so amazly their value stays just about the same even when the the supply gets a little bigger cause CCP didn't do something like release the Guardian Vexor which is worth billions. Buy some more items and wait a year, see if CCP releases something new but you have stock of the old to sell. CHA-CHING!

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#4 - 2011-11-20 16:18:39 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
sorry, but this is not new in the gaming industry

yesterday's rewards become tomorrow's incentives
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-20 16:23:36 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Morganta wrote:
sorry, but this is not new in the gaming industry

yesterday's rewards become tomorrow's incentives



I understand. I just figured that I wouldn't see that in EVE Online. Saw this happening too many times in Star Trek Online and hence, my frustration with this.

I also understand that what I am proposing is not a popular measure for the general populous. Just letting out the voice of a minority losers who like to collect internet spaceships.
Myxx
The Scope
#6 - 2011-11-20 16:26:31 UTC
I must agree with the Antiquarian, actually.
Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-11-20 16:30:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyya
I understand your reservations with this. I could say i care less about the cerebral implant as most will be used anyways. The Apoth, mehh could live with it as i could with possibly the interbus shuttle and perhaps even the Zeph. They hold no real extra vallue as they're pretty much useless ships (bar the Zeph).However, if it proves quite an incentive what's next?

Re-issue of the gold and silver magnates? Guardian vexor @ a years worth of plex? Opux luxury pleasure boat or Fed navy MegaT @ 2 years worth?
Keep it to worthless junk and stay off the more valuable ships i'd say. All the worthless crap will die in a fire or dissapear as accounts are closed for ever.

Hell, with the isk you and other collectors have you could hire Goons to do a collectageddon if it reaches a hight...
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-11-20 16:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Freyya wrote:
I understand your reservations with this. I could say i care less about the cerebral implant as most will be used anyways. The Apoth, mehh could live with it as i could with possibly the interbus shuttle and perhaps even the Zeph. They hold no real extra vallue as they're pretty much useless ships (bar the Zeph).However, if it proves quite an incentive what's next?

Re-issue of the gold and silver magnates? Guardian vexor @ a years worth of plex? Opux luxury pleasure boat or Fed navy MegaT @ 2 years worth?
Keep it to worthless junk and stay off the more valuable ships i'd say. All the worthless crap will die in a fire or dissapear as accounts are closed for ever.

Hell, with the isk you and other collectors have you could hire Goons to do a collectageddon if it reaches a hight...


You are absolutely right, but my only concern is that in order to entice new comers, this will only lead to CCP's additional offering of portfolios of other super rare collectibles including tourney and ingame live event ships & items. I just want the cork screwed back in the bottle before such things happen. =P
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#9 - 2011-11-20 17:21:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Paragon Renegade
I agree.

But still, it doesn't matter to any reasonable degree. your Apotheosis is still a reward from those days, and no amount of advertising can change that.

The pie is a tautology

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#10 - 2011-11-20 17:24:58 UTC
The douche in the monocle is right.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-11-20 17:39:30 UTC
Aye, he indeed is.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Adunh Slavy
#12 - 2011-11-20 18:11:32 UTC
Have to agree with the Apoth, the accel gizmo only works for new chars though yes? So not sure that one matters.

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#13 - 2011-11-20 18:30:38 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
it was a very special version of frigate offered


You got the bolded part wrong, Apotheosis is a shuttle.

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acemoto
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-21 09:53:31 UTC
Me no like my zephyr and primaes getting reissued and becomming worthless. With antiq on this.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2011-11-21 10:27:17 UTC
acemoto wrote:
Me no like my zephyr and primaes getting reissued and becomming worthless. With antiq on this.


You missed the memo? They have been worthless for a long time.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-21 10:29:00 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
acemoto wrote:
Me no like my zephyr and primaes getting reissued and becomming worthless. With antiq on this.


You missed the memo? They have been worthless for a long time.


where they ever useful?

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Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-11-21 11:05:55 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
acemoto wrote:
Me no like my zephyr and primaes getting reissued and becomming worthless. With antiq on this.


You missed the memo? They have been worthless for a long time.


where they ever useful?


They used to be....for a day or 2. Zephyr was usefull when people where exploring wh for the stories they held. Nowadays they're just useless since either everything has been discovered (not explained mind you) or because each wh is populated and too dangerous to fly anything other than a cloaky or fleet ship.

Primae was quite usefull when people where settting up lots of planets when PI was introduced. All has been done so who needs a large PI industry building ship anymore?

I know i know, rhetorical question and all....
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2011-11-21 11:29:39 UTC
OP has a solid point, new collectables > recycling*


* as opposed to our Earthly lives, where everything should preferably be recycled, reused or refurbed.

.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#19 - 2011-11-21 11:31:48 UTC
Cerebral is great. I am really pleased that CCP brought this back! Smile

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-11-21 12:38:37 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Cerebral is great. I am really pleased that CCP brought this back! Smile


It's great that CCP brought the Cerebral Accelerator back, but they should've introduced an item with different name but of identical nature so the values/worth of the original Accelerators are not devalued.

We are fine with CCP providing items as part of their sales promotion as long as they are not the same items already issued to commemorate certain historical events. Recycling old historical items only cheapens the sentimental values attached to those items.
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