Player Features and Ideas Discussion

jup also ore isnt bound to a faktion that allows them to pick from all faction sub system s

Subsystems for Cargo,Resis,Buffer,Drone Dmg, Drone Yield,Weapons, and so on
neutral Corporations arent bound and have more options than a Faction bound Corporation

ORE is stand alone mining\indy corp.

Their ships got unique looks and functionality and they got nothing to do with gallente. you don't need any gallente skill or attribute to use their gear\ships.

if we go ORE path Mazzara, might be cool to make the subsystems for all Indy ships activity:
hauling - ores and such
Salvaging
mining

I had an idea earlier for a dedicated mining cruiser and battleship to flesh out the line started with the ORE frigate. I don't consider barges to be a part of that--the Venture is a true frigate even though it's a non-combat ship; mining barges are cruiser-sized industrial ships. They are like haulers, noctises, and the Primae.

I didn't submit my idea on the forums yet, but kept it with my rather large set of plans for my alternate EVE universe that I am designing, but I thought these might be interesting to the OP or others reading this, so here's a copy+paste of my work:

Proportional Yield: 4.20 - 5.00
Venture - Slot Layout: 5 3 3
3 turret and 2 drone hardpoints, 40m3 drone bay
+5% mining yield (ORE Frigate)
-5% gas and ice miner cycle time (ORE Frigate)
-5% agility per level (Corvettes)
+33% mining yield (role bonus)
-25% gas and ice harvester cycle time (role bonus)
+2 warp strength (role bonus)
5000m3 ore bay, 50m3 cargo bay


Proportional Yield: 6.30 - 7.50
Endeavour - Slot Layout: 4 5 3
4 drone hardpoints, 160m3 drone bay
+5% strip miner yield (ORE Cruiser)
-4% ice harvester cycle time (ORE Cruiser)
+7.5% cargo and ore capacity (Cruisers)
can fit 2 strip miners (role bonus)
can transform ore hold into 30% cargo (role bonus)
12,500m3 ore bay, 750m3 cargo bay


Proportional Yield: 8.40 - 10.00
Exploit - Slot Layout: 4 7 4
5 drone hardpoints, 3100m3 drone bay
+5% strip miner yield (ORE Battleship)
-4% ice harvester cycle time (ORE Battleship)
+5% drone damage and hit points (Battleships)
+10% shield boost amount (Battleships)
can fit 2 strip miners, +33% strip miner output (role bonus)
can fit Industrial Core* (role bonus)
8000m3 ore bay, 1000m3 cargo bay

*Original Industrial Core is now called Capital Industrial Core, and the new Industrial Core activates similar to a cloaking device: stays active until cancelled, 30 second deactivation/reactivation delay. While active, the use of drones is disallowed but the use of strip miners is enabled. The ORE Battleship may equip two strip miners, but may not activate them unless this module is installed and active. The Industrial Core also allows ore to be partially refined into a richer variety of the ore that takes up 25% of the volume, though 20-36% of the minerals is lost in this process. This can be done without any blueprints and only costs capacitor. The base loss amount is 40% and the loss amount goes down 10% (4 percentage points) for each level of the Remote Ore Refining skill. This skill is not required to operate the Industrial Core but it is required to partially refine the ore while away from a proper refining facility.

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Keep in mind some figures (esp. drones) are balanced around other changes I made in my alternate EVE. In my version of EVE, a single drone is about as powerful as a single weapon of the same size class.

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Ore ships are slightly Gallente. But they're about as Gallente as Sansha is Amarr.

WH mining merely requires a combat ship or two to go in and clear the rats that spawn initially. After that you can mine without any NPC interference.

+1, I fly a mackinaw/orca when I want to mine (what I am doing to diversify my activities) and sometimes venture. A different kind of ship to get beyond that is awesome.

Didn't read the 2nd page.

orca and rorqual are so not long term goals, they're babysitting ships. they don't do anything active.

let the small miner newbies far away to gain ISK.

i dont think you get it newbies have it easy enough in my newbie days the hulk costs about 330 mio and the trit price was around 2 Isk per unit

whats now cheap exumers and the price for empire ores is higher than in my days afk gameplay via retriever or mack
even if the prices fall about 10-20% they have it good enough and better than in my days

gas mining in wh, ore mining in fleets while wardecced - for fun