EVE General Discussion

The optimal population for many null systems is 1 person. It can take 3 days for another combat signature to spawn. In the meantime everyone in that system has only anonolies to farm, (which are in a tight heirachy of bad to meh) so for the most part, they'll all farm only 1 type of anomoly), and all below -0.75 sov null have no reason for combat pilots to enter belts. I've done well over 200 anomolies since the last one escalated. Most systems don't support anomolies that earn more than L4 missions in highsec. There are no content that is better done multiplayer.

ie I can keep the content sufficiently variable for me by working the system alone, and I have to give up half of that just for 1 player to be added to my corp. That is obviously broken for an MMO.

Completely agree but they have had since 2009 and they have stated that we might get something in summer 2014.

How long do they need?

One of the big issues that I see popping up in this thread & this is true all across EVE is that there is a lack of content in each individual system. Sure there are a huge number of systems, but most of them in any security space are fairly barren. Even WH space can be barren, I've done excursions into there and found nothing but more WH's a number of times.

This creates boring space, when a solar system should be full of life & things to do.

To start with.
More Sigs & Anoms. They don't have to be more valuable than at present, and some can be 'less' valuable. But include environmental effects. Gas clouds that might explode if you fly near. Radiation zones. Old mines. Mini unusable WH's that put forth a C1 WH effect onto just the grid they are on in K space. or a higher C effect in WH space (Maybe even of a different type)
Then add smaller sov structures.
Sov Relay Array. Reinforce this and notifications for the next x time on Sov structures don't get sent (Obviously notification of this gets sent). Low enough a small gang can burn it down fast. With a way for the Sov holder to repair it out of reinforcement.
Scan arrays to represent the indexes. So Combat Scanning Array. As above, Reinforce it and the system acts as if it's 0 Combat index, but it can be repaired.

Even with just the 4 array types here, and a few more sigs & anoms, most systems will at least double the number of things in them, if not triple. As well as providing content for more players at once per system which has a knock on effect as increased player density leads to more chance people will go hunting said players, further increasing players in the system.

Is this idea a true Sov fix, Not at all. But it starts making things move as well as making it possible to raid a larger entity & move them around. If you reinforce a dozen Sov Relay Arrays at once all over the place, they have to send scouts to all those places. Meaning it becomes possible to confuse them as to your actual attack point.

Personally I've always believed that the larger your territory is the easier it is to make it lucrative, but also makes it exponentially harder to defend and keep.

Large, sprawling, and especially thinly populated "space empires" should get easier and easier for small groups (or other large groups) to take that space away. Of course, whoever takes that space also has to deal with the same grim realities.

End result... groups end up taking what they can hold but strive not to get too big for their own britches.

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Not sure why everyone is making a HUGE stink about this. Sov may not be the best system but it isn't totally , uselessly broken, and that's only a year away

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Until summer 2014.

It's much easier for there to be discord among the troops when the each have their own identity, so this is a good thing.

I'm just saying the mechanics should reflect and emphasis these traits, a guiding rule for future SOV mechanics overhauls.

Nothing as simple as "the more systems you have SOV over the shorter your reinforcement timers will be", but something that accomplishes the same end.

The larger your "space empire" is, the easier it should be for small groups of insurgents to do serious harm. At some point your infrastructure gets too big to effectively police in it's entirety.

I think by "larger" they were referring to the quantity of territory held, not the number of people involved in the enterprise. 100 people holding 10 systems should be easier to attack than 100 people holding 1 system, etc.

Obviously more people would have the inverse effect, but the higher the population density of your territory, the thinner the resource distribution on a per-capita basis.