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Small charity donors grow! VAERT will *more* than double your ISK donated for Philippines

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1 - 2013-12-01 03:25:46 UTC
Hello,

I am the president of a ISK to RL cash donation charity called VAERT EvE ISK => RL money donations Emergency Relief Initiative [VAERT], active since 2011.

In the last days we have seen a massively epic charity initiative by Amarr Citizen 155 offering to match any donation sent for the PLEX for GOOD: Philippines Typhoon Relief.

I am here to propose a similar thing but even bolder: VAERT BOOST.

Every ISK you send will be matched by me for 220% of its value.

That is, if you send 100M, it'll be like you donated 220M!!

Now, I have almost all my ISK tied but I may still quickly free an ISK pool of 20 billions expressly dedicated to small Donors. This pool may increase in the coming days to accomodate more donations!


How does this work

The full blurb is detailed at this post. You are invited to read it as I am used to follow these things by the letter.

TLDR


1) Copy this corporation ticker into a chat:

VAHFT

2) Right click on it, select:

Autolink and then Corporation.

This will produce a clickable corporation that will point to: Vahrokh Financial Technologies [VAHFT]

3) Right click the VAERT clickable name generated at point 2.

From the resulting popup menu select: Give Money.

4) A window will appear, where you may enter an ISK amount to donate (maximum 500M!) and a Reason. In Reason you should enter (or copy and paste):

VAERT BOOST

Done! Easier to do than to write it down! Now your donation ISK will be worth 220% of its value!





Sponsorships

I'd love to provide a boosted experience to as many as possible, so I am asking those who have some ISK in excess to become sponsors. Basically your ISK will add to mine and provide the liquidity needed to fullfill those 220% ISK boosts.

Basically you'll be "on the other side" with me, helping Donors to be able to donate more.

For more details please check the second half of this post.

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Darth Peaches
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-12-01 03:35:22 UTC
My scam senses are tingling, but my faith in CCP to ban people who use charities as a tool for scamming makes me want to believe that this is legitimate (at least partly legitimate).

This is the first time in my short EvE career where I cannot tell 100% if it's a scam or not.
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-12-01 03:36:43 UTC
Yes, donate me some isk and I promise to keep it meself..

Send me isk im poor
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#4 - 2013-12-01 03:38:24 UTC
Darth Peaches wrote:
My scam senses are tingling, but my faith in CCP to ban people who use charities as a tool for scamming makes me want to believe that this is legitimate (at least partly legitimate).

This is the first time in my short EvE career where I cannot tell 100% if it's a scam or not.


Hello,

Scamming on PLEX for Good initiatives is not tolerated and leads to perma ban.

You may find the full CCP statements at the bottom of their official PLEX for Philippines blog:

CCP wrote:

Please note that CCP regards any scamming attempts surrounding PLEX for GOOD to be morally reprehensible, and any attempts at scamming relating to this program will be met with the harshest and swiftest action at our disposal.

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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#5 - 2013-12-01 03:55:24 UTC
VV is not a scammer. She is a trusted third party, auditor, philanthropist and a well respected member of MD (Market Discussion forum), and is totally obsessive about doing things right. She has maintained a charity fund for PLEX for Good for about three years, and was instrumental in getting this current PLEX for Good drive started.

VV, I think this is another great gesture, and I wish you the best in this endeavor.

So after doing the 220% thing, will you forward the money to AC155's trillion ISK drive, so that it becomes 440%?

Any colour you like.
Pretty Pennie Pava
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-12-01 04:33:11 UTC
Samroski wrote:

So after doing the 220% thing, will you forward the money to AC155's trillion ISK drive, so that it becomes 440%?

If you are doing that, I will be sending the profits of my sales/auction thread to you to double before it gets doubled again! Big smile
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-12-01 04:45:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Thatt Guy
I derped. Sorry :(

Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll.
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#8 - 2013-12-01 04:52:55 UTC
Thatt Guy wrote:
So instead of simply giving the isk to Chribba's effort, you have to try and 1-up him by offering more isk? Roll
Sounds like Jita chat's "Don't double your isk, TRIPLE IT!".

Calling SCAM on this one!

Look for some fun times after the drive is over should your account last that long.

Trying to outdo each other in this event is a good thing, no matter what his motive. Does it matter if it's for glory, recognition, or pure altuism? The end results will still be the same: more isk/plex to help the Philippines.
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#9 - 2013-12-01 05:22:52 UTC
Thatt Guy wrote:
So instead of simply giving the isk to Chribba's effort, you have to try and 1-up him by offering more isk? Roll
Sounds like Jita chat's "Don't double your isk, TRIPLE IT!".

Calling SCAM on this one!

Look for some fun times after the drive is over should your account last that long.

Trying to one-up each other in charity is actually the best kind of one-upping :)

The reason you think this is a scam is because you do not know VV. I suggest looking at VV's posting history over the last few years before calling her a scammer.

Also: during the fanfest a couple of years ago, VV (and Viaris) got special thanks for contributing to the last PLEX for Good drive.

Please DO NOT CALL THIS A SCAM, unless you have a reason better than your whim.

Derailing wonderful charity initiatives like this by calling scam is reprehensible. Please refrain.

Any colour you like.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-12-01 05:25:37 UTC
Thatt Guy wrote:
So instead of simply giving the isk to Chribba's effort, you have to try and 1-up him by offering more isk? Roll
Sounds like Jita chat's "Don't double your isk, TRIPLE IT!".

Calling SCAM on this one!

Look for some fun times after the drive is over should your account last that long.

Roll

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
SeenButNotHeard
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-12-01 05:28:39 UTC
I am not doubting VV's effort here - I've been around for long enough to know that it is legit.

I am interested in how VV has gone from a charity drive, to supporting the AC thread, to offering this! Come on VV - let us hear it - what have you been up to?!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#12 - 2013-12-01 07:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Samroski wrote:
VV is not a scammer. She is a trusted third party, auditor, philanthropist and a well respected member of MD (Market Discussion forum), and is totally obsessive about doing things right. She has maintained a charity fund for PLEX for Good for about three years, and was instrumental in getting this current PLEX for Good drive started.

VV, I think this is another great gesture, and I wish you the best in this endeavor.

So after doing the 220% thing, will you forward the money to AC155's trillion ISK drive, so that it becomes 440%?


Of course!

And I hope somebody will help me actually grow the fund sponsorship pool so that we amplify it the maximum possible!


I tell you how I got the idea.

I have posted this on AC155's thread:

Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

As president of the VAERT ISK to RL donations cash charity I was going to forward a donation to the charity itself, but now I am before two choices:

- Don't do anything, forward to VAERT and keep telling people to keep sending to VAERT and get some e-peen thousand $ display value to attribute to VAERT success when the donation drive will end, gloat about having done things to start this whole new CCP drive and blah blah. (1)

- Choose to actually do the best for RL Philippinos and thus divert donations to VAERT to THIS initiative instead. Because each ISK donated to VAERT could lead to 1 more PLEX = $15, but each ISK donated to this initiative could lead to 2 PLEXes = $30. (2)


Without hesitation I want to go for the second choice.


Then I got myself thinking: "dude you can't do nothing new this time and just tag along, what if between 1 or 2 you'd choose... 3 and 3 would be > 1 and 2?"

So here you go, I have implemented leverage and for once it's for a good end.



Edit: the only limitation is the usual one: whoever will send ISK directly to VAERT, I won't be able to take it out and forward it to AC155, only ISK (donors and sponsors) that will go to VAHFT.

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enterprisePSI
#13 - 2013-12-01 08:26:59 UTC
Samroski wrote:
VV is not a scammer. She is a trusted third party, auditor, philanthropist and a well respected member of MD (Market Discussion forum), and is totally obsessive about doing things right. She has maintained a charity fund for PLEX for Good for about three years, and was instrumental in getting this current PLEX for Good drive started.

VV, I think this is another great gesture, and I wish you the best in this endeavor.

So after doing the 220% thing, will you forward the money to AC155's trillion ISK drive, so that it becomes 440%?



Confirming all of the above.

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©
RAW23
#14 - 2013-12-01 09:44:21 UTC
SeenButNotHeard wrote:
I am not doubting VV's effort here - I've been around for long enough to know that it is legit.

I am interested in how VV has gone from a charity drive, to supporting the AC thread, to offering this! Come on VV - let us hear it - what have you been up to?!


It looks like the point here is NOT to compete with AC's offer but to complement it. 1) You send isk to VV, 2) VV will more than double it, 3) VV will then send the more than doubled amount to Chribba/AC155 where it will get doubled again. So, any donations being made in this way will actually come out at 440% of their initial value!

I'll be sending some isk when I get back in-game.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#15 - 2013-12-01 10:34:59 UTC
I feel humbled by the amount of support shown here!

Now, let your wallets talk! Pirate

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Pretty Pennie Pava
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-12-01 11:14:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Pretty Pennie Pava
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
I feel humbled by the amount of support shown here!

Now, let your wallets talk! Pirate

can i just donate a lump sum for you to double? i know it's against your rules but otherwise i'll just bend them and game your system by sending 500mil at a time from various of my alts Twisted
Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#17 - 2013-12-01 11:47:56 UTC
Perhaps you should have a word in private with Chribba and AC and see if you can merge efforts under an umbrella. There are substantial sums already donated to Chribba's appeal, and I see no reason for you not to honour your 220% commitment on those as well.
Pretty Pennie Pava
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-12-01 12:02:25 UTC
Mixu Paatelainen wrote:
Perhaps you should have a word in private with Chribba and AC and see if you can merge efforts under an umbrella. There are substantial sums already donated to Chribba's appeal, and I see no reason for you not to honour your 220% commitment on those as well.

well, the thing here is that if you donate to VV first, he can then donate to chribba and in effect more than quadruple the initial investment. so it might be a good thing keeping them seperate.
Obunagawe
#19 - 2013-12-01 12:15:00 UTC
Are you increasing it by 220% using your own personal wallet, or using the money from VAERT? If the latter, that's totally lame and gay.
Alecto Rani
Sadistic Lepers
Incorporeal Conglomerate Society
#20 - 2013-12-01 12:19:55 UTC
Darth Peaches wrote:
My scam senses are tingling, but my faith in CCP to ban people who use charities as a tool for scamming makes me want to believe that this is legitimate (at least partly legitimate).

This is the first time in my short EvE career where I cannot tell 100% if it's a scam or not.


CCP said Scammin PLEX for GOOD was morally reprehensible. Which is the name of the actual drive. This is another and its ISK, CCP also said scamming ISK was a valid game tactic.

So I say total Scam
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