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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#141 - 2013-12-01 02:18:19 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
To keep this somewhat Eve relevant, I find the whole "all females are males" thing extremely annoying. I can't just say "I'm a woman playing Eve". I'm expected to go out of my way to verify my gender, else I'm just assumed to be Guy In Real Life. Flipside, guys get really, really pissed off when you do the inverse, and just assume them to be female unless proven otherwise.


I have long since ceased to care if some random fellow or fellows on a video game or forum or any other electronic media believe I am a woman or not. if someone asks for my gender, i'll provide that information. what they do with it in their minds from there is totally on them. matters not to me one bit. just because so and so from such and such game doesn't believe when I tell them doesn't mean I magically grow a penis.

however, not to give too much credit to doubters...if I saw someone named lady areola fappington claiming to be a woman even someone as easy going and uncaring about such things as myself might raise an eyebrow. Lol
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2013-12-01 02:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Your willingness to believe that a single study disproves decades of studies in gender disparities is pretty telling.
I'll get to the actual study later.


"disproves"? Hardly, and I said no such thing.

I said that the results they showed indicate that something besides what is assumed to be norm, is actually the case. Unlike a great deal of the "decades of gender studies", the neutrality of the Department of Labor is fairly easily established, as well.

Oh, and my "results my vary" comment went over your head, I believe.


I misunderstood you then. I thought you were implying that the study demonstrated that the disparity favors women.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#143 - 2013-12-01 02:29:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Your willingness to believe that a single study disproves decades of studies in gender disparities is pretty telling.
I'll get to the actual study later.


"disproves"? Hardly, and I said no such thing.

I said that the results they showed indicate that something besides what is assumed to be norm, is actually the case. Unlike a great deal of the "decades of gender studies", the neutrality of the Department of Labor is fairly easily established, as well.

Oh, and my "results my vary" comment went over your head, I believe.


I misunderstood you then. I thought you were implying that the study demonstrated that the disparity favors women.


No, I said that the educational one certainly does for the majority of the workforce below a Masters' level of education. And that it's fairly apparent.

However, the data involved is... very interesting to say the least. The percentages of time worked for overtime pay at the very least goes a long way to explaining the common knowledge of the supposed disparity.

I take nothing as fact merely because someone says so emphatically.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#144 - 2013-12-01 02:38:51 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Well yes, there are now more women getting bachelor's degrees than men. Why that is is particularly difficult to say.
I hold certain opinions that make me rather unpopular with certain feminists. I'm certainly not one to say that disparities are entirely one-sided. Very rarely is that actually the case. For example, there are certainly disparities with regards to things like family courts awarding child custody almost exclusively to women. There are also very significant numbers of feminists who believe that domestic violence, ****, etc. are problems that only women face - attitudes which are particularly damaging to male victims of these crimes ("men can't be raped", "men always want it", "men are physically stronger so they can't be victims of abuse", etc.).

Of course some of these can be traced back to discriminatory attitudes towards women, but not all.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#145 - 2013-12-01 02:39:32 UTC
That article is about as useful as **** on a boar hog. Arrow
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#146 - 2013-12-01 02:49:41 UTC
gender studies isn't scientific at all and its hilarious that people regard it as legitimate as real sciences but i digress, this is an awful discussion and you should all stop talking about stupid **** like this. Go register on Something Awful and post like a ****** in the E/N femninsm forums if you want to wax poetic about your poor social struggles. This thread is about a moron who is offended by literally every single gamer subculture. Mock him. SHut up about gender/feminism issues.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#147 - 2013-12-01 02:50:51 UTC
Quote:
Why that is is particularly difficult to say.


No, it isn't. I worked in a college in a number of positions for quite a while.

They have over-emphasized incentives to minority groups, of which women are considered one. This has resulted in turning the disparity on it's head. But you can spin it upside down and it's still a disparity. And idk where I heard it but someone told a long time ago that 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Quote:
For example, there are certainly disparities with regards to things like family courts awarding child custody almost exclusively to women.


This is actually symptomatic of a very problematic societal issue. Equal treatment under the law is no longer a reasonable assumption. It is not easy to describe how incredibly bad this is. Not to mention that the perception of it creates resentment that is actually justified.

Quote:
There are also very significant numbers of feminists who believe that domestic violence, ****, etc. are problems that only women face - attitudes which are particularly damaging to male victims of these crimes ("men can't be raped", "men always want it", "men are physically stronger so they can't be victims of abuse", etc.).


You may be unaware of this, but in the United States there is almost no legal definition by which a woman can **** a man. The legal term is Forcible Envelopment, and is legally distinct from **** as a crime, both in terms of sentencing and in statistical accounting as such. It has served to skew the entire debate toward "women's issues", effectively marginalizing a considerable portion of the population in the discussion.

Which goes back to the whole "equal treatment" thing no longer being an assumption one can reasonably make when a female is involved. It is both reasonable and intelligent to assume one will in fact, not be treated fairly in any legal situation involving a female.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#148 - 2013-12-01 02:51:26 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
gender studies isn't scientific at all and its hilarious that people regard it as legitimate as real sciences but i digress, this is an awful discussion and you should all stop talking about stupid **** like this. Go register on Something Awful and post like a ****** in the E/N femninsm forums if you want to wax poetic about your poor social struggles. This thread is about a moron who is offended by literally every single gamer subculture. Mock him. SHut up about gender/feminism issues.

Gender studies are a subtopic of sociology, which is a social science (whether or not you agree about the social sciences being actual sciences, that's what it is).
Nobody cares that you think it's stupid.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2013-12-01 03:03:57 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
gender studies isn't scientific at all and its hilarious that people regard it as legitimate as real sciences but i digress, this is an awful discussion and you should all stop talking about stupid **** like this. Go register on Something Awful and post like a ****** in the E/N femninsm forums if you want to wax poetic about your poor social struggles. This thread is about a moron who is offended by literally every single gamer subculture. Mock him. SHut up about gender/feminism issues.


The day I take lessons from someone with such poor syntax on what is and isn't science is the day I'll register in that spergepit the SA forums. Until then, I'll get my education from experts with more than 500 citations per paper to their name.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#150 - 2013-12-01 04:53:57 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
gender studies isn't scientific at all and its hilarious that people regard it as legitimate as real sciences but i digress, this is an awful discussion and you should all stop talking about stupid **** like this. Go register on Something Awful and post like a ****** in the E/N femninsm forums if you want to wax poetic about your poor social struggles. This thread is about a moron who is offended by literally every single gamer subculture. Mock him. SHut up about gender/feminism issues.


The day I take lessons from someone with such poor syntax on what is and isn't science is the day I'll register in that spergepit the SA forums. Until then, I'll get my education from experts with more than 500 citations per paper to their name.

you'd actually fit right in hth
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2013-12-01 07:48:52 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
gender studies isn't scientific at all and its hilarious that people regard it as legitimate as real sciences but i digress, this is an awful discussion and you should all stop talking about stupid **** like this. Go register on Something Awful and post like a ****** in the E/N femninsm forums if you want to wax poetic about your poor social struggles. This thread is about a moron who is offended by literally every single gamer subculture. Mock him. SHut up about gender/feminism issues.


The day I take lessons from someone with such poor syntax on what is and isn't science is the day I'll register in that spergepit the SA forums. Until then, I'll get my education from experts with more than 500 citations per paper to their name.

you'd actually fit right in hth


Not likely. I've perused SA already, 'lurked' as they call it. I couldn't find one forum of interest that wasn't already available in a much better quality somewhere else.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2013-12-01 08:29:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Solops Crendraven
We all are Gamers here right? So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying. Im cu·ri·ous my Enquiring Mind Needs To Know!


Dont be a victim
Just say no

1. Thread Hijacking


When a person starts a posting on a message board, or forum, or Facebook, that others are able to comment on, that original posting and the comments on it are called a thread. A thread hijacking occurs when one or more individuals commenting on the original posting, go off topic, creating a separate conversation. This is rude, and bad internet etiquette. If people want to discuss a different topic, they should start their own thread.

Stay on topic Here is The 26 catagories of discussion.

1. Griefers
2. Spawn killers
3.. Cheats
4. Bad language
5. Poor winners
6. Poor losers
7. Rage quitters
8. Happy campers
9. Backstabbers
10. Noobs
11. Singers
12. Glitchers
13. Pretty fly (for a white guy)
14. Children
15. Elit3 p14y3r5
16. Millionaires
17. Overly-attached friends
18. Laggers
19. Farmers
20. Spoilers
21. Bored experts
22. Bros
23. Achievement hoarders
24. Clan players
24. Clan players
26. Trolls

Please do tell me your annoying stories I do really wanna know. ( Lets keep it Eve online related or Gaming in General )

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2013-12-01 08:47:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Solops Crendraven
Gealbhan wrote:
That article is about as useful as **** on a boar hog. Arrow
agreed than is why we must take all of the annoying eve gamers round them up and and put them on a firing squad of super Caps dont worry my friend I have a longlife plan to rid of these worthless insects.

Dont be a victim
Just say no

1. Thread Hijacking


When a person starts a posting on a message board, or forum, or Facebook, that others are able to comment on, that original posting and the comments on it are called a thread. A thread hijacking occurs when one or more individuals commenting on the original posting, go off topic, creating a separate conversation. This is rude, and bad internet etiquette. If people want to discuss a different topic, they should start their own thread.

Stay on topic Big smile

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Josef Djugashvilis
#154 - 2013-12-01 08:55:21 UTC
Na Und wrote:
Hey James, here's a link for you. Please take the time to read it.

An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women.

There will be a quiz on Friday.


I like the part where the report says that the wage disparity is ...just 21.5%...

I can just imagine if the pay gap favoured women, men saying, well that's all right then, things are getting better, no need to push for more equality now...

This is not a signature.
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2013-12-01 09:00:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Solops Crendraven
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Na Und wrote:
Hey James, here's a link for you. Please take the time to read it.

An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women.

There will be a quiz on Friday.


I like the part where the report says that the wage disparity is ...just 21.5%...

I can just imagine if the pay gap favoured women, men saying, well that's all right then, things are getting better, no need to push for more equality now...

We all are Gamers here right? So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying. Im cu·ri·ous my Enquiring Mind Needs To Know!


Dont be a victim
Just say no

1. Thread Hijacking


When a person starts a posting on a message board, or forum, or Facebook, that others are able to comment on, that original posting and the comments on it are called a thread. A thread hijacking occurs when one or more individuals commenting on the original posting, go off topic, creating a separate conversation. This is rude, and bad internet etiquette. If people want to discuss a different topic, they should start their own thread.

Stay on topic Here is The 26 catagories of discussion.

1. Griefers
2. Spawn killers
3.. Cheats
4. Bad language
5. Poor winners
6. Poor losers
7. Rage quitters
8. Happy campers
9. Backstabbers
10. Noobs
11. Singers
12. Glitchers
13. Pretty fly (for a white guy)
14. Children
15. Elit3 p14y3r5
16. Millionaires
17. Overly-attached friends
18. Laggers
19. Farmers
20. Spoilers
21. Bored experts
22. Bros
23. Achievement hoarders
24. Clan players
24. Clan players
26. Trolls

Please do tell me your annoying stories I do really wanna know. ( Lets keep it Eve online related or Gaming in General )

Moving To Las Vegas Watch Me Play Poker! enter link description here
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#156 - 2013-12-01 09:05:57 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Na Und wrote:
Hey James, here's a link for you. Please take the time to read it.

An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women.

There will be a quiz on Friday.


I like the part where the report says that the wage disparity is ...just 21.5%...

I can just imagine if the pay gap favoured women, men saying, well that's all right then, things are getting better, no need to push for more equality now...

So you're saying equality can only be achieved when part time workers and people in lower paying fields can earn as much as full time workers and people in higher paying fields. That's not equality, it's the exact opposite.

Oh god.
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2013-12-01 09:09:01 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Na Und wrote:
Hey James, here's a link for you. Please take the time to read it.

An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women.

There will be a quiz on Friday.


I like the part where the report says that the wage disparity is ...just 21.5%...

I can just imagine if the pay gap favoured women, men saying, well that's all right then, things are getting better, no need to push for more equality now...

So you're saying equality can only be achieved when part time workers and people in lower paying fields can earn as much as full time workers and people in higher paying fields. That's not equality, it's the exact opposite.

1. Counter-Troll
A counter-troll is someone versed in the art of disarming an online troll, usually by out-witting, out-exasperating, or purposefully failing to be antagonized by the troll's actions.

These actions are different from feeding the troll as the latter involves giving the troll ammunition and sating its hunger for chaos and bedlam, whereas counter-trolling involves responding to the troll in a manner that leaves him/her with nowhere to go in terms of antagonistic actions, and will likely deter him/her from further trolling.

Note: Counter-Trolling must be done very carefully, as a desperate troll won't understand what's going on and resort to general pandemonium, resulting in combustion, turning the troll into a flamer.
TROLL: Counter-trolls are gay.
COUNTER-TROLL: ...and?
TROLL: That means you like it up the ass.
COUNTER-TROLL: ...and?
TROLL: That means you have a boyfriend you ******.
COUNTER-TROLL: ...and?
TROLL: ...
TROLL: **** you.
*TROLL has signed off*
COUNTER-TROLL: Awesome, now I can wrap up my activity here in peace and quiet, go home, and sleep with my wife.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#158 - 2013-12-01 09:12:40 UTC
Can we keep your homophobic attitudes off this forum please? It's disruptive.

Oh god.
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2013-12-01 09:20:45 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Can we keep your homophobic attitudes off this forum please? It's disruptive.

Homophobic attitudes are not the topic please keep on topic on my forum thank you Riot Girl If you dont like it go post your own Thread Thank you

We all are Gamers here right? So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying. Im cu·ri·ous my Enquiring Mind Needs To Know! The 25 Most Annoying Things About Online Gamers


Dont be a victim
Just say no

1. Thread Hijacking


When a person starts a posting on a message board, or forum, or Facebook, that others are able to comment on, that original posting and the comments on it are called a thread. A thread hijacking occurs when one or more individuals commenting on the original posting, go off topic, creating a separate conversation. This is rude, and bad internet etiquette. If people want to discuss a different topic, they should start their own thread.

Stay on topic Here is The 26 catagories of discussion.

1. Griefers
2. Spawn killers
3.. Cheats
4. Bad language
5. Poor winners
6. Poor losers
7. Rage quitters
8. Happy campers
9. Backstabbers
10. Noobs
11. Singers
12. Glitchers
13. Pretty fly (for a white guy)
14. Children
15. Elit3 p14y3r5
16. Millionaires
17. Overly-attached friends
18. Laggers
19. Farmers
20. Spoilers
21. Bored experts
22. Bros
23. Achievement hoarders
24. Clan players
24. Clan players
26. Trolls

Please do tell me your annoying stories I do really wanna know. ( Lets keep it Eve online related or Gaming in General )

Moving To Las Vegas Watch Me Play Poker! enter link description here
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#160 - 2013-12-01 09:26:55 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
So you're saying equality can only be achieved when part time workers and people in lower paying fields can earn as much as full time workers and people in higher paying fields. That's not equality, it's the exact opposite.

You're being disingenuous. Those factors don't account for all (and probably not even most) of the disparity. If they did, controlling for these factors should cause the gap to disappear. But it doesn't. It also fails to investigate (unless I missed it, but you can't seriously expect me to read the entire 95 page report) why women are more likely to take part-time jobs or work in lower paying fields. This might be tied to discrimination. It might not be.

I would also like to point out once again that even if there weren't a wage gap, we're still only talking about a very small part of the larger issue.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)