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Eve Down Under Bombshell: No Sov overhaul until at least Winter 2014

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EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#1 - 2013-11-30 22:27:23 UTC
http://evefeet.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/eve-down-under-ccp-keynote.html

Quote:

Presented by CCP Fozzie.

Q: Sov?
A: Lots of ideas being introduced that tie into sov. In the summer expansion some will be introduced but will not be an overhaul.


Welp,
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#2 - 2013-11-30 22:29:32 UTC
But theres a new battleship..

Cry
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-11-30 22:34:04 UTC
That's ******* bullshit.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#4 - 2013-11-30 22:38:26 UTC
Who cares about SOV?

Just trespass. CCP is providing a new tool for that, and has already provided a frigate and cruiser to that end.


Don't like it? Stop camping the gate and try warping around a bit.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Atlantis Fuanan
Wormhole Research Inc.
#5 - 2013-11-30 22:38:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Atlantis Fuanan
Quote:

Presented by CCP Fozzie.

Q: Sov?
A: Lots of ideas being introduced that tie into sov. In the summer expansion some will be introduced but will not be an overhaul.


Cry More attention to that, CCP!

Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Who cares about SOV?

Just trespass. CCP is providing a new tool for that, and has already provided a frigate and cruiser to that end.


Don't like it? Stop camping the gate and try warping around a bit.


Camping the gate? Where is the gatecamp?

[u]Things that would make EVE better:[/u] NRDS - Remove Local - Balance Cloak - Sov-Mechanic Changes - Less QQ

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#6 - 2013-11-30 22:41:59 UTC
Let's build stargates! To new systems! With the same old boring and pointless sov system!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2013-11-30 22:49:46 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Let's build stargates! To new systems! With the same old boring and pointless sov system!



Suddenly the zest for life that I had halfway through your post just vanished.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Reiisha
#8 - 2013-11-30 22:52:17 UTC
Instead of complaining about it, why not offer solutions that could actually work? CCP is just a stumped about it as you guys and are looking for a proper way to do it.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2013-11-30 22:56:07 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Instead of complaining about it, why not offer solutions that could actually work? CCP is just a stumped about it as you guys and are looking for a proper way to do it.

Well, I tried.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#10 - 2013-11-30 22:58:03 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Instead of complaining about it, why not offer solutions that could actually work? CCP is just a stumped about it as you guys and are looking for a proper way to do it.

*whistles innocently*
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#11 - 2013-11-30 23:00:25 UTC
Let's also not forget that any head FC, alliance leader or CSM rep would be happy to discuss in detail the issues that have been plaguing 0.0 for years.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-11-30 23:03:13 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Who cares about SOV?

Just trespass. CCP is providing a new tool for that, and has already provided a frigate and cruiser to that end.


Don't like it? Stop camping the gate and try warping around a bit.

Have you even been to null?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#13 - 2013-11-30 23:06:02 UTC
I am desolate. Straight

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-11-30 23:25:01 UTC
Everyone wants sov to be revamped, but no one has a good idea how.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#15 - 2013-11-30 23:27:15 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
I am desolate. Straight


Why don't you walk to the space-bar and have a space-drink about it.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#16 - 2013-11-30 23:30:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
I am desolate. Straight


Why don't you walk to the space-bar and have a space-drink about it.


I can't find my legs.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2013-11-30 23:30:14 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
Everyone wants sov to be revamped, but no one has a good idea how.


That's a significant part of the problem. A lot of people have some clear ideas about what should and should not happen (reward activity, **** hp-based sov systems etc) but designing an actual system is harder.

And it's going to be a god damb complex system. Which means it's going to be hard as hell to debug and clear out exploits. And then there are going to be bugs and exploits anyway.

And people who benefit from the current system are going to whine like crazy.



"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-11-30 23:30:33 UTC
Similar to other ideas presented over the years, it does seem CCP is banking on a continuous players' loyalty to keep the game going with these vague "one day soon we might get around to fixing that, but in the mean time..."
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-11-30 23:31:08 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Let's build stargates! To new systems! With the same old boring and pointless sov system!


Let's not make anything better until we can make everything perfect!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#20 - 2013-11-30 23:33:14 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Let's build stargates! To new systems! With the same old boring and pointless sov system!


Let's not make anything better until we can make everything perfect!

Let's build the roof first and then think about the foundation. Castle in the sky build on a pie in the sky. It will work. Promise!
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