EVE General Discussion

Agreed. We are all victims of the CSM.

Yeah, that's a problem. It has been dealt with successfully in the past though.

SpaceSquirrels, ask around about Providence... an area of Null that was NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot). The concept, through sheer effort of will, worked to a degree. Up until they got a bit too greedy for territory.

A pity really, I wouldn't mind seeing that level of open border policy attempted again in a few area's of Null.

I've read this thread on and off all night considering whether to respond but frankly it's hard to respond without venom.
The op post claims not to be insulting but proceeds to take the stance of a self proclaimed intelligentsia (google it) both insulting in tone and pointedly offensive.
You can hardly take the morale high ground by dismissing alternate styles of game play that you clearly disapprove of as bigoted and foolish without yourself becoming the bigot.

This game, despite claims likewise supports a varied array of game play styles both destructive and creative which is in itself a self perpetuating cycle depending on both spheres to exist.
If you don't like low sec or high sec don't go there but don't disparage those who seek to enrich the experience of their own game play in their respective environments.
Though you should argue the case for any development that might adversely affect your own.

The rather disingenuous (google that as well) attitude to low sec dwellers with a pvp orientation shows both breath taking arrogance and ignorance of the games design which is neither pro high sec nor pro low / null sec but rather an amalgamation of all to create a diverse and player driven content structure.

PVP in itself whilst destructive carries it's own skill set requiring tactics, planning, understanding of game mechanics in aggression, setup......it's easy to go on and describe dozens of skills needed to pvp effectively not to mention the achievement of besting a fellow human rather than a scripted NPC. But no your Guardianista values abhor this thus surely it must be the domain of the Proletariat, less steeped in such arcane sciences as being able to open doors!......

Frankly your attitudes are disgusting and no more informed or valid than those you claim are equally disparaging to your own style of game play. Thinly veiled insults peppered with quotation marks dripping with contempt as you try to force your own game play on others as the choice of the intelligentsia!
Pvp'ers play style is as valid as your own and requires as much intelligence as well as reflexes which enrich both your mental faculties and physical.
I myself not that it is any of your business am a stable 32 year old with wife and daughter with a high paid job and strong education nonetheless my enjoyment of games comes from the challenge of conflict and engaging my will and intelligence to defeating human opponents. This is fulfilling for me and that it should chafe your foibles is of little concern to me.

To be more direct, no reasonable player cares if you wish to move from high sec, no reasonable player is asking you to. And if you do you will be subject to the rules system that affects those systems you enter.
What we as low and null sec players are looking for is to enrich our own game play which in the case of low sec particularly, is a defined role in the structure of the game.

As some of you so eloquently put it:

That Is All

So read THAT and weep.

Well. I'll be hornswaggled. All that typing and you missed the point. Who took any moral ground? Guess again....intelligentsia, Marxist dialectic for what they identified to be an oppressive "class" whom they then exterminated. Might be a word. Might be a term of art. A little too didactic for my taste.

Oh, wait. I get it. Slam dunk with a one-liner (you may need the delete key here) and you don't have to consider the idea of the post. Right? Good one, Michael Jordan.

... yeah, takes a really creative mind to sit at a gate, breathing slowly with flu into someone's ear while you wait for someone to come through.
Then you shoot!
They are helpless.
You won before they even came through the gate!

Brilliant, absolutely forking brilliant. Such a risk taker you must be to do that! So daring!

And you just create the whole story in your head, with no proof to back it up...

Good.

well put.
+1 for howlin' wolf.

#1 post of Serene is the best post i have ever read on this forum. -by far!



I stay out of 00 and lowsec. I am happy in highsec (actually i wouldnt mind if CCP removes low and 00 from the game )

Where are you hiding the buffalo, CCP? A few years ago there was buffalo everywhere you looked. Those were happy times. We could kill all the buffalo we wanted for as long as we wanted. Now I went and got myself an even bigger gun to kill buffalo. I come back, and the buffalo is gone. Where did you put it? I want my buffalo back! I want to kill buffalo again with my new gun!

confirming that all PvP takes place at gates