EVE General Discussion

It can't, alone, tackle someone who's prepared specifically to remain safe from it and who executed on that preparation perfectly. If they're not sitting right by their fully onlined MD, or they're a little slow about manually changing their fit, or their active low slot modules are in the middle of their cycle, you end up with plenty of time to RF it and keep them caught.


If a Stealth Bomber is the best tool for the specific situation, whats the problem with using it?

What's better, a single bomb will make all depots hit reinforce mode (I don't remember how far they must be one from another, but I'm sure that not too far).
But then, everybody wants to use new inties to navigate bubble farms now, and someone told me that solo light tackle such as inty has troubles with reinforcing depots.

I just had an interesting thought.

Counter Depot-ing. Drop a depot next to the tackle target before they can drop one themselves, since you can't drop one within the radius.

Doesn't work if they thought ahead and dropped one ahead of time, but hey, it's something.

Apparently not.

I will be your friend Roggle.

This topic is hilarious!
I dare say I never used mobile depot, but from what I read in here it is a must thingy in my ratting carrier. Also I think there is a valid point raised, even though many ppl try to come up with sollutions which dont really fit the situation.

1. Bring more friends sollution:
Yes that would definetly work. However this completely ignores the fact were talking solo pvp here. And even though some ppl in here try to describe solopvpers like antisocial freaks of a kind, flying solo is mostly a choice. This advice is not viable and it makes me wonder how could anyone even propose smt like this to solo pvp problem.

2. Bring more scrams:
Fitting more scramblers gimps your fit greatly. Againg were speaking solo pvp here so u try to fit your ship to be as flexible as it can get and fitting like this really limits your options. Not really an advice I find usefull for solo player, altough theoretically viable.

3. Reinforce the depot:
I see no problem reinforcing the depot if it is dropped after u arrived on field. However from the information ive gathered it will be very difficult borderline impossible to prevent target from refitting if depot was dropped beforehand. This advice is really usefull and ill add depots to my overview so I can primary them when hunting.

4. Bring this/that ship
Since u solo pvp u can bring only 1 ship with u. The best choice seems to fly small dictor or hictor. I dont really think hictors are that good pvp ships. They have great tackle, great tank but ability to avoid or escape camp seem pretty low. That leaves u with small dictor. Ofc picking this ship will limit your target choice greatly, but u already limit yourself by flying solo. That beeing said, other ships dont have as good chance of tackle against "on the fly" reffiting ships, because of low ability to stop wcsd ships to warp away. Basicaly u cant kill anything that carries depot around for refit in other ships, which is too restrictive for solo pvp player.

From proposed solutiions only 1 helps (nr. 3), 2 fail completely (nr. 1,2), and one is so so (nr. 4). It seems obvious that if mechanics dont change, this will greatly further discourage solo pvp, which is plain bad.

Yes it is a good "general advice". But solo pvp=/= more friends. Thats why while this advice targets the problem, it doesnt take into account the specific situation. It is therefore DQ by the definition of solo.


Yes but he doesnt have to commit to his fit. Its just 20-30 second fit for sake of escaping. And while escaping or running away is viable tactic he does not sacrifice the ability of his ship to pve while retaining the ability to effectively fly away.


I agree. If u choose to solo pvp u should be able to dish a bit of dps because if u cant u wont be able to kill the ratter no matter the depot.


Ofc preparation is key. However the preparation u have to take as solo pvper narrows down your options way too much in my opinion. On the other side all that defender has to do is load depot with fit to cargo and use it at theright time or whenever. Not much of an effort if u ask me.


Never claimed "I wanted to do exactly as before." I just feels this restricts solo pvp even furhter which is no warranted IMHO. Even though EVE is MMO, there should be viable choice to pvp solo and have small chance to kill something. And that your chance to evade attacker should not be in large part decided by the size of your cargohold.

…and foregoing friends means foregoing a fairly large number of strategies. Without those strategies, some targets will be beyond your reach, such as a target that is fully prepared to run away from a single attacker. If he has made all those preparations, and you refuse to do any to adapt or circumvent what he's done, then his getting away is how it should be.

He's prepared; you need to prepare right back.

If he doesn't commit to it, he won't get away so that would remove the entire point with his trying to fit them to begin with.

Have you thought about bringing along a depot to adjust your fit to what you might encounter? The defender has to put in as much effort as you do to plan what he brings along. And given the size of the equipment involved, cargo space isn't a factor for whether he can evade you or not.

No, but that is the gist of the main complaint against the thing: that just flying in and blasting the guy without proper preparation and adaptation won't work.

For a short while, it will be a popular tactic to use until the attackers learn to use the myriad of counter-tactics at their disposal. After that, it'll just be easier to go back to the tried and true evasion tactics because they're not so trivially easy to nullify.

As a soloist with only one account I can answer all this crap with one word:

BUMP


We done here or do you goobers still want to post nonsense that can be solved with one word? I have my doubts that any of you complainers even knew what you were doing in the first place and mostly got lucky killing noobs. It's never been uncommon to encounter stabbed ships.

I think the real fear for these guys isn't the stabs but the ability to swap to a pvp fit on the fly to fight back. Don't be scared fellow soloists just look down between your legs and locate the two little round things there. They're called balls...use 'um.