Crime & Punishment

Yes this is a forum alt, I don't really fancy having too many war decs active.

I've been in several corporations that have been war decced multiple times and have seen first hand what an organised merc corp are capable of, seeing 4 ships take on 10 and win was an awe inspiring site and 1 I enjoyed despite being on the losing side. We've fought against a 1 man corp with nuetral logi's and had a lot of fun, the chat in local alone inspired us to try more pvp, again we may have lost that war but we did so while fighting back.

We have had a war where not only did we finally manage to win but chased them across highsec till they just refused to undock whenever we where nearby (I would use the term carbears for them but don't want to put them under our name)

Then we had the griefer war decs, who's sole reason for playing eve is tears, they camp the trade routes killing any unsuspecting war target stupid enough to pass through, well almost any war target, whenever its a ship that can defend itself they run to the nearest station. Repeatedly we would try to crash their camps only to see them warping off and dock, staying there until we finally leave system, they don't respond in local unless they have just killed you. Even when 2 of us in cruisers jumped into their 5 man bc camp they fled, its almost as if they are afraid to lose ships. That said I've had some good times watching local when these griefers get their tears and would not want this type of gameplay to stop.

That leads me to the point of this thread, encouraging carebears like myself to fight back.

When forced into a war dec against their will, I have seen experienced players tell newer players to stay docked up, undocking will just make them continue the war.
Whilst I do my best to get fleets going and stand our ground, it can be hard work and the outcome rests solely on the aggressive corp, when they are polite, helpful by offering advice on fits and tactics, and they don't continue the war I can generally get 1 or 2 carebears to enjoy pvp, many of whom then go on to leave the corp for a life of pvp.

But when there is nothing but ganking haulers and pve ships, when our fleets find no fight waiting for us, when we got blobbed or when the "don't fight" advice turns out to be correct and the war is continued just because we fought back, I see players stop logging on, or refusing to undock which is the exact opposite of what you, the mercs should want.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the wars can be made enjoyable for both sides, but it does require several things to happen, some of which you mercs can make happen.

While I realise this may not actually get many mercs to change their ways, if even just 1 merc corp changes its ways and inturn 1 carebear trys to pvp and enjoys it then it was worth my time writing it.

Tldr; if you can't be bothered to read my post then I can't be bothered to write a tldr, and you properly wouldn't understand my ramblings anyway.

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I'd advice every corp under a wardec to do just a little research on the corp deccing you and adapt accordingly.
Also, talking with other 'victims' might help to form a strategy.

Players who tell people to just dock up and wait it out should be banned from the game, really.


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Look at you all huffy... Admit it, you were the guy in the mining vindi we murdered and now you mad, right?

D.

An experienced player would never say that.

They would tell you to get in cheap Merlins, Kestrels and Griffins and show you how kill expensive stuff with your cheap throwaway frigates.

Most high-sec mercenary outfits don't seem to understand that you don't need huge numbers of active pilots to do the job. You only need them to camp trade hubs. You will have a small group that will roam, but in general they stay on the undocks of trade hubs with insta-locking ships and arties to get free kills. In short, they pad their killboards with missioning ships or industry alts and talk about how badass they are (great case-in-point: VegasMirage handing Marmite their ass, and all MArmite could do was say "We killed trilions in carebears, you didn't do anything!"). Put simply, larger mercenary outfits become complacent, and they make some of the easiest kills if caught solo or in small gangs.

This.

Altho I would tell them to fit Battle Ventures.

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Wardec is a "terror tool", nothing more. Wardec is a exclusive hisec excuse to pvp people without their consent. People in hisec rolling corps not prepared to handle wardecs are clearly being informed that their leadership is not prepared to be a corp leadership, and would be better off in someone else's corp until they do.

Another situation where ego is your worse enemy.

Its smart to warp away when an enemy jumps on you. Maybe the two battlecruisers are bait and when you engage, a swarm of enemies will pop in and wipe you.

I generally try to run if someone jumps me, because if he jumps me that means he has had time to prepare and this might be a trap.

If I jump on an unprepared enemy, its unlikely he has a fleet nearby to back him up.

:facepalm:

You're Eve Uni. You are the swarm of enemies. You outnumber anyone who might wardec you 5:1.

Be the hero tackle and call for help.

EDIT: Well don't if you're in a battlecruiser. If you're in a BC just dock back up and undock in something smaller lol.