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SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#61 - 2013-11-29 04:44:55 UTC
I have only one account but if I could I would own 20. Just to **** guys like you off.Cool

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-11-29 07:13:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
Well I suppose if the multi-boxers were paying the bills it would be good, but they aren't since they plex so well... I don't know they are good for. I mean I stopped paying for my accounts when I started multi-boxing.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#63 - 2013-11-29 08:54:27 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:
I agree. It destroys the sandbox and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.

The question is how long the income from people having multiple accounts will outweigh the players the game loses because of them.


I'm going to go with "indefinitely"

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#64 - 2013-11-29 09:16:37 UTC
Phaade wrote:

However, a lot of things are terribly unbalanced, driving away those of us who play a game solo (how it should be played IMO).


Please explain why playing a Massive Multiplayer Online game solo is the way it should be played.

It does sound more like you should be playing a single player game, or talk to a shrink about your fear of interacting with other people.

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DB Tank
Worcester Marauders
#65 - 2013-11-29 09:17:20 UTC
It cannot have effected the game because this has been going on since release back in 2003. Does it matter no.

It's up to them. You cannot stop them. I play a silly iOS game and people have multiple accounts there.

I only have one. Ignore what others are doing and just do your best.
Obmud
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2013-11-29 09:29:11 UTC
I have 4 accounts but i never multibox, they all do something different... like an exploration char, industry, hauler, pvp char which is this one and my main.

I'm not feeling to fond of multiboxing either, it's kind of a pay to win scenario on some instances. If you reach a certain level of skill you can totally overtake the enemy by just logging in a 2nd char.

In PvP thats the usual Falcon alt, or a linkloki or whatever. I can't be arsed to do that 50% because i'm to lazy 50% because i dont think it's cool.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-11-29 09:29:56 UTC
Uma D wrote:
Yeah. let us get rid of all alt accounts....

In the end who cares if half of 0.0 cancels their sub because they are forced to either have their single account stuck in a Mothership /Titan or being able to fly other ships

you mean people will have CONSEQUENCES for their decisions??? Shocked

Uma D wrote:

. Who cares when you allways have to rely on other people (which in big alliances is not the big problem of course) to move ships like jumpfreighters and carriers around.

you mean in MULTIPLAYER game person will HAVE to RELY on other people??? Shocked

Uma D wrote:

Who cares if things like corp infiltration and spying on other corps and alliances completly dies.

you mean these tasks will be as difficult as in REAL LIFE?
In the game we speak of "EVE is real"? Shocked

Uma D wrote:

If you would say ban tools like ISBoxer.. sure nothing against that. But limiting all players to only one account would let some of the most interesting parts of eve completly die and i really doubt that this in any way would have a positive effect on subscriptions.

yea, game with real consequences is a lot less fun. Agree with it.

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Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2013-11-29 09:31:56 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Phaade wrote:
Other people are playing the game differently than I, and I don't like it!



You are the internet space equivalent of the obnoxious busybody that is universally despised by everyone who doesn't belong to their particular clique.

"Other people are listening to music that I don't like! Music is dying! Something must be done!"
"Other people are consuming substances that I don't approve of! Society is coming apart at the seams! Something must be done!"
"Other people are having relationships that I don't approve of! My marriage is threatened! Something must be done!"

Business as usual, get the **** over it.

Why cant i like your post twice...

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2013-11-29 09:34:40 UTC
Phaade wrote:
This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts.

It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it.

Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life.



Eve has been like that since basically day 1. THat never ruined it. In fact allwoed it to flowrish.


You can always replace alts with FRIENDS,

If you want to avoid friends, then get an alt.


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Dangirdas Bachir
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2013-11-29 09:37:31 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Well I suppose if the multi-boxers were paying the bills it would be good, but they aren't since they plex so well... I don't know they are good for. I mean I stopped paying for my accounts when I started multi-boxing.

Best reason to get rid of multi boxers. They don't even pay for the subscription and yet they are the ones with the highest amount of ISK. This gives a massive disadvantage to players who only have one account, which is what we are all supposed to have.

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Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2013-11-29 09:49:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tasiv Deka
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Well I suppose if the multi-boxers were paying the bills it would be good, but they aren't since they plex so well... I don't know they are good for. I mean I stopped paying for my accounts when I started multi-boxing.

Best reason to get rid of multi boxers. They don't even pay for the subscription and yet they are the ones with the highest amount of ISK. This gives a massive disadvantage to players who only have one account, which is what we are all supposed to have.



Let me tell you why thats bullshit

3 accounts here (granted one of them was from the recent 5 dollar starter pack sale) have paid for them all with cash with the exception of a couple months when i had unexpected bills come up and needed to trim some fat.

i have a friend with 4 accounts pays for all of them with cash

another with 2 accounts pays for one entirely with cash and the other 50/50 cash/plex

besides without other accounts buying plex the prices would drop so plex still pull money into the game (just at a different time then subs)

EDIT: oh also who says we are only supposed to have one account? Not ccp so that leaves you... and you sir have no right to tell me how to play a game (so long as i play by the developer set rules.

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2013-11-29 09:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Mascha Tzash
Can we name the summer expansion "EVE Online: is dieing"?
Would make at least for a good aprils fools joke.
Dangirdas Bachir
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-11-29 09:56:24 UTC
Tasiv Deka wrote:
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Well I suppose if the multi-boxers were paying the bills it would be good, but they aren't since they plex so well... I don't know they are good for. I mean I stopped paying for my accounts when I started multi-boxing.

Best reason to get rid of multi boxers. They don't even pay for the subscription and yet they are the ones with the highest amount of ISK. This gives a massive disadvantage to players who only have one account, which is what we are all supposed to have.



Let me tell you why thats bullshit

3 accounts here (granted one of them was from the recent 5 dollar starter pack sale) have paid for them all with cash with the exception of a couple months when i had unexpected bills come up and needed to trim some fat.

i have a friend with 4 accounts pays for all of them with cash

another with 2 accounts pays for one entirely with cash and the other 50/50 cash/plex

besides without other accounts buying plex the prices would drop so plex still pull money into the game (just at a different time then subs)

EDIT: oh also who says we are only supposed to have one account? Not ccp so that leaves you... and you sir have no right to tell me how to play a game (so long as i play by the developer set rules.

Good boy, you at least pay for the extra accounts, I know there are plenty of people who don't. Anyway, that's not my main problem, it's just the share advantage you get fro multi boxing. I can't say it's unfair, because we all can get mutiple accounts. I just personally don't like the idea. The game was made to be played alone or with friends. Not to play alone and get mutiple accounts to play more with yourself. It's my opinion, you don't have to defend yourself, if you do it you do it.

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Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#74 - 2013-11-29 10:01:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Inquisitor Ageri
Multiboxers put themselves at a risk because they have to macromanage their operation, be it PVE or PVP. A player running a single client must utilize the fact that he can micromanage far far more effectively than someone who is trying to coherently manage a half-dozen ships simultaneously. Multiboxing doesn't always give you a tangible advantage, but then again that's imo.
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#75 - 2013-11-29 10:07:12 UTC
Phaade wrote:
This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts.

It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it.

Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life.



since you cant Always rely on your buddy`s. and you still want to move around.. thats 1of the 1st reasons to get another account..
its sad but true
Dangirdas Bachir
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2013-11-29 10:14:42 UTC
Inquisitor Ageri wrote:
Multiboxers put themselves at a risk because they have to macromanage their operation, be it PVE or PVP. A player running a single client must utilize the fact that he can micromanage far far more effectively than someone who is trying to coherently manage a half-dozen ships simultaneously. Multiboxing doesn't always give you a tangible advantage, but then again that's imo.

It gives a ISK advantage for sure.

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polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2013-11-29 10:28:48 UTC
Phaade wrote:
This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts.

It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it.

Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life.


I only Multi box; I hope I have ruined your day on more than one occasion.
And Second it is us players who Multi Box that are helping to Keep EVE alive.

Someone with only 2 accounts it doing twice as much as your slack wel-fare ass is doing to help the game stay alive.
I know of people who have more than 20+ accounts.
I think people who Multi-Box should be rewarded by CCP.

You could argue that CCP might even lose up to half of its revenue by doing away with people like us.
I know I would quit if they took away my ability to multi box. or most certainly just move my alts all to a single account and not pay for 3 and only pay for one account.

Also can I have your tuff ?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2013-11-29 11:34:26 UTC
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
Inquisitor Ageri wrote:
Multiboxers put themselves at a risk because they have to macromanage their operation, be it PVE or PVP. A player running a single client must utilize the fact that he can micromanage far far more effectively than someone who is trying to coherently manage a half-dozen ships simultaneously. Multiboxing doesn't always give you a tangible advantage, but then again that's imo.

It gives a ISK advantage for sure.


Since isk advantage != skill advantage, I would consider that a non-issue.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-11-29 11:36:06 UTC
Just think of multiple accounts as multiple players.. what would you do in that situation you would do vs multiboxers..

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2013-11-29 11:38:37 UTC
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Well I suppose if the multi-boxers were paying the bills it would be good, but they aren't since they plex so well... I don't know they are good for. I mean I stopped paying for my accounts when I started multi-boxing.

Best reason to get rid of multi boxers. They don't even pay for the subscription and yet they are the ones with the highest amount of ISK. This gives a massive disadvantage to players who only have one account, which is what we are all supposed to have.


What?

No no no, you two have got it all wrong. Just because they're not paying for their accounts, doesn't mean the accounts have not been paid for. Do you think those plex they are using just magically appear on the market? No, someone pays real money and puts them on the market. In fact, someone pays more for that plex than they would for one month of game time. So you see, an account that is plexed is paid for by proxy.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104