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Attention New GalMil Pilots - The Gallente Elite Have Forgotten About You

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Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#301 - 2013-11-28 17:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Baron' Soontir Fel
ZheoTheThird wrote:
We have never cared about kbstats and we're not about to start because some tryhards we're beating think it's the most important thing in this game. It's great fun and it's worked so far in FW, so I don't see us changing in that regard.


Where's that quote where you say that you're not interested in sov warfare.

Found it;

Quote:
If I measured success on a scale of sov owned, I would've joined EMP or goons the day we left fountain. I also don't care about your caldari farming alt, after all faction warfare is just another lowsec carebear place, with some added, but dumbed down pvp. Perfect for TEST right now, really.



So how exactly to you measure victory? It's obviously not sov owned or KB stats.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#302 - 2013-11-29 00:46:09 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
So how exactly to you measure victory? It's obviously not sov owned or KB stats.


Thats an easy question. It´s obviously the amount of fun. And drama. The fun thing, I can totally understand. Drama, well...I dont like drama but TEST does. For whatever reason to be honest, I dont understand that.
For me smacktalking is just a way to get fights, either profocating them to engage you or provokating to make them come back. TEST is making drama and smacking even if they know they wont undock, because there is no fun for them to be had, for whatever reason again. Thats the moment when I close local :)

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Castnicke Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#303 - 2013-11-29 03:20:51 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
We have never cared about kbstats and we're not about to start because some tryhards we're beating think it's the most important thing in this game. It's great fun and it's worked so far in FW, so I don't see us changing in that regard.


Where's that quote where you say that you're not interested in sov warfare.

Found it;

Quote:
If I measured success on a scale of sov owned, I would've joined EMP or goons the day we left fountain. I also don't care about your caldari farming alt, after all faction warfare is just another lowsec carebear place, with some added, but dumbed down pvp. Perfect for TEST right now, really.



So how exactly to you measure victory? It's obviously not sov owned or KB stats.


Get out of here with your logic! Get out I say!
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#304 - 2013-11-29 03:26:30 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:

So how exactly to you measure victory? It's obviously not sov owned or KB stats.


I think its forum posts.
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#305 - 2013-11-29 03:27:01 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Aha. Consider this shark jumped folks. TEST of all people unable to grasp how losing territory might not be a big deal to everyone.


...****, you beat me to this one. Well played, good sir. Well played.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#306 - 2013-11-29 07:33:42 UTC
If TEST is so bad GalMil must be worse since they don't control the majority of the warzone.

What's it like to be worse than TEST, GalMil?

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#307 - 2013-11-29 07:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Zah Damaja wrote:
If TEST is so bad GalMil must be worse since they don't control the majority of the warzone.

What's it like to be worse than TEST, GalMil?


If being worse than TEST (or any other null sec entitiy and also various waves are farmers before them) means gallente spend a time at tier 1, getting an opportunity to sell out LP at 2200isk, then im good with that.

In reality, we currently have more systems left during a caldari push than i ever remember. usually were down to like 4-5 systems. So it might be appropriate to ask why TEST are not as strong as non-affiliated farming alts that did all this better, before them.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#308 - 2013-11-29 07:47:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Zah Damaja
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
~in reality~


In reality we hold the majority of the warzone because GalMil is worse than TEST. If you were better you would control the warzone. But you're not, so you don't.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#309 - 2013-11-29 07:51:00 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
~in reality~


~insecurity~


I think i said it better.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#310 - 2013-11-29 07:58:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zah Damaja
You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#311 - 2013-11-29 07:59:36 UTC
TEST and CalMil proudly present tier 2 benefits

gg

.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#312 - 2013-11-29 08:04:31 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.



Just like when the Germans had Stalingrad surrounded the Germans were winning?

Lets go easy on the analogies, its too easy.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#313 - 2013-11-29 08:16:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Zah Damaja
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.



Just like when the Germans had Stalingrad surrounded the Germans were winning?

Lets go easy on the analogies, its too easy.


No you're right! I like your addition to my analogy. You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.

I appreciate your assist on my analogy, I'm surprised at how well it fits. Nice job!

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#314 - 2013-11-29 08:17:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Zah Damaja wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.



Just like when the Germans had Stalingrad surrounded the Germans were winning?

Lets go easy on the analogies, its too easy.


No you're right! I like your addition to my analogy. You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.

I appreciate your assist on my analogy, I'm surprised at how well it fits. Nice job!


Bit of a stretch considering the only signs of weakness on either side of this particular warzone, by our own standards, is the caldari slipping into tier 2.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#315 - 2013-11-29 08:22:02 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.



Just like when the Germans had Stalingrad surrounded the Germans were winning?

Lets go easy on the analogies, its too easy.


No you're right! I like your addition to my analogy. You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.

I appreciate your assist on my analogy, I'm surprised at how well it fits. Nice job!


Bit of a stretch considering the only signs of weakness on either side of this particular warzone is the caldari slipping into tier 2.



You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#316 - 2013-11-29 08:26:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Zah Damaja wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.



Just like when the Germans had Stalingrad surrounded the Germans were winning?

Lets go easy on the analogies, its too easy.


No you're right! I like your addition to my analogy. You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.

I appreciate your assist on my analogy, I'm surprised at how well it fits. Nice job!


Bit of a stretch considering the only signs of weakness on either side of this particular warzone is the caldari slipping into tier 2.



You can't pretend we don't control the majority of the warzone. Because we do. Its a real thing that's actually happening.

You see when the Russians had Berlin surrounded, the Germans were not winning. They were in fact losing. Its much the same here. We (the Russians) have Berlin surrounded and you (the Nâzi's) are considering shooting yourselves in the face in a bunker somewhere.



2 analogies, 2 different sides doing the surrounding. I fear you are placing the emphasis on surrounding when my analogy clearly discredited that.

The real power is that i just cashed out at 2200isk/lp (sorry gallente bros, i crashed the market for a short while) and still live in my home station. As does every other gallente pilot as of right now.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#317 - 2013-11-29 08:36:14 UTC
Don't second guess yourself! You were spot on! Same war, same timeline! You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#318 - 2013-11-29 08:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Zah Damaja wrote:
Don't second guess yourself! You were spot on! Same war, same timeline! You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.


Dont get excited, if you want to bastardise my analogy to your own end, thats fine. Even if gal mil didnt require themselves to hit tier 1 every now and then to be optimally profitable, there is no case to be made for gallentes suicide.

We have been here before, we will be here again. Gallente are the only militia that has never suffered major attrition while losing the warzone, as we have done many times before.

15 remaining gallente systems represents the weakest caldari push in recent memory, on top of that, gallente are historically slow at coming out of the pendulum due to lack of affiliated farmers. However with cal mil LP crashing and low SP farming prospects dwindling on the caldari side, its hard to imagine the caldari upswing will last much longer.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#319 - 2013-11-29 08:54:23 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
Don't second guess yourself! You were spot on! Same war, same timeline! You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.


Dont get excited, if you want to bastardise my analogy to your own end, thats fine. Even if gal mil didnt require themselves to hit tier 1 every now and then to be optimally profitable, there is no case to be made for gallentes suicide.

We have been here before, we will be here again. Gallente are the only militia that has never suffered major attrition while losing the warzone, as we have done many times before.

15 remaining gallente systems represents the weakest caldari push in recent memory, on top of that, gallente are historically slow at coming out of the pendulum due to lack of affiliated farmers. However with cal mil LP crashing and low SP farming prospects dwindling on the caldari side, its hard to imaging the caldari upswing will last much longer.


Well I can't just pretend you didn't point out the perfect addition to my analogy. What you said is literally exactly what happened. The Nâzi's (GalMil) got pushed away from Stalingrad(CalMil systems) and all the way back to Berlin (GalMil systems) where you sit in a bunker thinking about shooting yourself. I'm just agreeing with your analogy because its fantastic.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#320 - 2013-11-29 08:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Zah Damaja wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
Don't second guess yourself! You were spot on! Same war, same timeline! You see GalMil(the Nâzi's) had warzone control over the CalMil(the Russians in Stalingrad). But then the TEST alliance(the brave and valiant Russian people) destroyed the GalMil (Nâzi) and pushed them all the way back to their home systems (Berlin) where you all now sit and wait contemplating sucking on the business end of a pistol.


Dont get excited, if you want to bastardise my analogy to your own end, thats fine. Even if gal mil didnt require themselves to hit tier 1 every now and then to be optimally profitable, there is no case to be made for gallentes suicide.

We have been here before, we will be here again. Gallente are the only militia that has never suffered major attrition while losing the warzone, as we have done many times before.

15 remaining gallente systems represents the weakest caldari push in recent memory, on top of that, gallente are historically slow at coming out of the pendulum due to lack of affiliated farmers. However with cal mil LP crashing and low SP farming prospects dwindling on the caldari side, its hard to imaging the caldari upswing will last much longer.


Well I can't just pretend you didn't point out the perfect addition to my analogy. What you said is literally exactly what happened. The Nâzi's (GalMil) got pushed away from Stalingrad(CalMil systems) and all the way back to Berlin (GalMil systems) where you sit in a bunker thinking about shooting yourself. I'm just agreeing with your analogy because its fantastic.


Except that in my analogy you are the germans, laying siege to stalingrad. You dont have any right to claim any particular side in these analogies.

Even if i entertained your interpretation of my counter analogy, there is no siege of gallente home systems. All gallente homes are almost stable since TEST seems to have lost the appitite for war and is only here for the ISK now. Much like nazi germany plundering europes historical and artistic treasures.

In fact, in RP terms, caldari are a fascist state, much akin to nazi germany, claiming otherwise is Orwellian at best.